is getting into G&R range to easy these days?

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

if u worked hard enough...u can ascned...and besides if u dont want to asncend rank means nothing anymore...well to me i just want a huge army thats it

[Nicholai Brocov]

Right, well my view is that it's hard enough for people to not only Ascend but re-re-re-re-re-re-ascend... So do I think they should change it back? No.

Do I think it's too easy to get G&R? No.
An, to stipulate my point - Ascension is already unappealing to a lot of people who have to work hard enough to get into the G&R zone. On top of that there are still people ascending all the time and hoging up the G&R spots so they can re-ascend... I'm surprised they haven't enlarged this 'zone' ten fold by now.

[Thufir_Hawat]

To me the problem seems to be the trading. Seems to be two games going on. I fought my way upto G&R, now People pass huge sums of NAQ, Turns and UU. Really so many accounts are now sitting with huge amounts of resources no one fights in the top 500 it seems to more be a trading game.

I really don't know how Rank and Alliance power are figured, but I know that rank does not represent actual power most often (I guess by not knowing the formulas I am a noob also).

Maybe a new formula for finding real power needs to be found, to eliminate the noobs from G&R.

[JIX]

its easy as hell to ascend these days i could create an account and have it ascended in 2months with ease (if i did'nt care about my account)

there is plenty of ways to catch up with the big players i have'nt always had 3mil+uu i got that from raiding and trading

and to whom ever said that the players near the top dont war.you dont really know alot do you?there is plenty of players massing and sabbing daily like me

[Thufir_Hawat]

Well I see your ranked 10K+ right now. Yes when I am down there I am raiding and stealing. There are so many farms now.

Again, your rank does not represent your real power. It is very hard to know where somone really stands in this game. Even being one who has ascended I see many players I would not want to fight on my own who have chosen not to.

[[KMA]Avenger]

if you have a good CO(like me ) or an excelent alliance (like AK ) then getting into G&R and staying there is not that difficult guys.

in all honesty i really think G&R should be pushed back and let more people fight for their positions, it makes for better game play and better players.

when i first broke into the top 500 to get my G&R points i thought "i wonder how long it will be before i get knocked out of the G&R zone"
it never happend till i was massed twice and lost 2 thirds of my total army!

i was ranked in the top 130 for nearly 2 months and was about ready to break into the top 75, till like i said i was massed.

even now i can break into G&R zone if thats what i wanted and i'm ranked in the 7k's somewhere

so is it to easy?
at the end of the day the answer has to be...YES!

[Wolf359]

I want to hear an opinion from someone who hasn't ascended 5 times already myself. I've been playing around 4 months now and I'm just barely approaching gnr range. Are you telling me that is too quick? Personally I wish there was some kind of cap on main so that people could ascend at least once. Make the second ascension as hard as you like, but I need fss just to compete.

I've only ascended once - haven't been bothered to do it again thus far.

The trouble is you can't really change the way ascension works now that it has been implemented for so long - to make it harder for subsequent ascensions would be unfair and would give those with already multiple asecnsions an advantage.

I don't think anyone would say that 4 months to get to G&R range is too quick - I have seen people do it more quickly - because they worked at doing it.

[Radium]

I agree - it does not need to be increased again - it is not difficlut to get into the top 2% - I know players who have only been playing a short time who have already done it - the trouble is that some people want everything handed to them these days!

At this point in time I agree with the 2% figure also. I also strongly agree, forever, with your statement about people wanting everything to be handed to them.

This game is dynamic. Two things are always increasing, number of players and number of players who have ascended and are done ascending. It appears that the formula Forum is trying to use for this is an attempt to balance these two factors out.

For a new player without help getting into GR range is challenging. Sorry Jix you do not qualify as a noob, even if you started a new account.

When you hear both sides complain it probably means there is balance.

[The Foo]

it is not to easy it is just right it is Exclusive but not an impossible goal make it any higher and it is just stupid any lower it is also stupid



the foo

[urogard]

I want to hear an opinion from someone who hasn't ascended 5 times already myself. I've been playing around 4 months now and I'm just barely approaching gnr range. Are you telling me that is too quick? Personally I wish there was some kind of cap on main so that people could ascend at least once. Make the second ascension as hard as you like, but I need fss just to compete.

if it took you 4 months then you were quite slow. I pushed myself alone through to get 2 and a half ascencions within 4 months of starting to play the game.
My first co helped me a bit. but he didn't give me billions of naq (about a bil including the naq he gave me per turn, and that;s it) everything i have is all my own work.

[Bad Wolf]

It is easy for older and wiser players to get into the G and R range fast and with no hassle, but for the n00bs I am sure it would be very hard to get there, most have no help, and most have no advice in how to get and stay in these G and R roles.

I think admin needs more people to ascend, so ascension becomes more active, but when ascension was made, it was surpost to be for the best of the best, letting every tom, **Filtered** and harry in, will this be happening ?

there are many pros and cons with ascension, but at the end of the day it is up to the player to decide what they want to do.

[The Foo]

i keep seeing all these people saying it is easy to assend what time frame are we talking about 4 months cus my UP is better than most maybe cus most of them are noobs we will never know but share a tip with me but i already know some of them


1 heaps of UP
2 covert to rank
3 massive miners

i think that is how u do it. i just want to know if i am going about assending in the right way

the foo

[Finarfin]

It really isn't that hard to get into the ranks everyone is talking about. I went from around 1.8k ranked to 300 in a week. You just have to know what you are doing. Its all about improving your worse ranked stat. You would be suprised how well that works. EG, my defense and mothership were very badly ranked, and bringing the ranks to 1300s and 800s respectively made my rank jump over a thousand points to where it is now.

[The Foo]

yes i do the same thing. i feel so proud, i know what i am doing



thanks man


the foo

[gooseman the first]

yea ive found its quite easy to get near the g&r ranks im like 50 away i think. and this is coming from someone who NEVER EVEN ONCE raided or got a co to hand me evrything, i admit he helped me in the begining but once i was on my own feet i left him and ive been doin grand..... i kinda forgot the main point of this post but i hope someone finds it useful to fuel their argument