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Additionally, I don't think filters for na-zi and na-zis should exist.

Just don't watch their videos and they'll either stick to themselves or go away.

They're only there to troll.

Additionally, I don't think filters for na-zi and na-zis should exist.

For the record, it was a joke censor put up and never taken down.
I still find it rather funny. Hitler. <_<

Just one of those things.

Brdavs wrote:You people fail to grasp that the concept of any right is that it is not absolute. It is limmited by the rights of others. Your freedome of speach is therefor unlimited up to a point wich is deemed over the line (by laws etc.), i.e. inciting religios/racial hatred. You need to burst them bubbles and realise that the world is not black/white and/or centered around *your* rights. So no, supressing lets say racial hatred propaganda is not limitating the freadom of speach and it does not make FoS bs just cos you cant say every piece of BS that enters your mind. So all you ultra liberals (noone particular in mind) need to brush up on your (legal) theory (as any right is foremost a legal concept) as to avoid embaressing yourselves in topics and pettitions like these... As soon as ppl start blabbering about inalienable rigts it makes me cry my eyes out laughing as in 95% of the time the "freedom fighters" couldn`t define the concept of a right if their lives depended on it lol...

Incorrect. You can suggest to deport the jews which actually was the original plan of the holocaust. But yes, saying kill all jews is technically against the law. However for your information Apophis, Naz1sm and Naz1's are a political party, political party's have the right to advertise on any medium that is viewed by adults. Besides, you don't like the video don't look up "naz1's" on youtube.

Sadly as for the racial matters thats not true. There are many people who publicly talk about how arab's are scum and such nothing can be done to stop them simply because it is their right as a united states citizen to say what they please and to practice their belief AS LONG as what their saying does not end in violence or some form of law breaking, I.E. the KKK still publicly talks about how Blacks are scum and such, but they are not shut down due to the fact that it hasn't gone down to violence recently

As for a couple matters about Naz1's, the holocaust was in the past and the main perpetrators punished. The Trials are over and the bad guys served their time. To hold a political party or ideology guilty for its past crimes for which they were punished is unethical. It be like Egypt wanting the video's about israel removed because they rebelled three or four thousand years ago., or... stop all video's on youtube about the queen because her ancestors ordered the slaughter of millions of peasants during the dark ages, or censoring united states government video's for the fact that we killed indian tribes.


So anyway Naz1's should be allowed to do as they please as long as it does not end with violence or any other form of law breaking.

Apadamek Of Watches wrote:Incorrect. You can suggest to deport the jews which actually was the original plan of the holocaust. But yes, saying kill all jews is technically against the law. However for your information Apophis, Naz1sm and Naz1's are a political party, political party's have the right to advertise on any medium that is viewed by adults. Besides, you don't like the video don't look up "naz1's" on youtube.

Not this one! Why would ask me? I will answer...because! Such party don't even deserve to be allowed to act and militate...
They only deserve to be emprisonned for life (if not going to death row!)

Sadly as for the racial matters thats not true. There are many people who publicly talk about how arab's are scum and such nothing can be done to stop them simply because it is their right as a united states citizen to say what they please and to practice their belief AS LONG as what their saying does not end in violence or some form of law breaking, I.E. the KKK still publicly talks about how Blacks are scum and such, but they are not shut down due to the fact that it hasn't gone down to violence recently

Making racist talking is against the law...hmmm maybe not in USA, as they don't seem to think racism is so bad, as I read what you said it appears so, and if they really thought racism was bad, KKK and such scum parties would be pemanently banned.

As for a couple matters about Naz1's, the holocaust was in the past and the main perpetrators punished. The Trials are over and the bad guys served their time. To hold a political party or ideology guilty for its past crimes for which they were punished is unethical. It be like Egypt wanting the video's about israel removed because they rebelled three or four thousand years ago., or... stop all video's on youtube about the queen because her ancestors ordered the slaughter of millions of peasants during the dark ages, or censoring united states government video's for the fact that we killed indian tribes.

LMAO @ word you used!

So anyway Naz1's should be allowed to do as they please as long as it does not end with violence or any other form of law breaking.

No we don't want scum --modded-- in youtube they can go to hell spread their crap --modded-- stuff there!
When I say "we" I don't mean people who always throw the FoS and all that double standart crap! (If someone in US says "Americans are scum", it will not be accepted and dealt with it, while if they say "Arabs are scum" it will pass freely, if not even applauded???)
So PLEASE don't throw that crap we all (smart people) know it's a DOUBLE standard, like it has always been.

the first quote is more naz1 then those video's it reminds me of H1tlers attitude for the Communists simply because of their belief's you put them in prison simply because of acts that they didn't do, just their political party sixty years ago.

The US government does not talk about good or bad, right or wrong when it comes to people's decisions and opinions. To try and dominate anyones opinions or decisions is the mark of tyrants.

As for the united states thing, look up the westboro baptist church they have a very large following.

Apadamek Of Watches wrote:the first quote is more naz1 then those video's it reminds me of H1tlers attitude for the Communists simply because of their belief's you put them in prison simply because of acts that they didn't do, just their political party sixty years ago.

The US government does not talk about good or bad, right or wrong when it comes to people's decisions and opinions. To try and dominate anyones opinions or decisions is the mark of tyrants.

As for the united states thing, look up the westboro baptist church they have a very large following.

No it's not more nazi, you know pretty well many punish violence by violence, don't throw that crap about tyrannic stuff because it's ALL same as fact killers in USA are executed, it's punished for a person to kill, but apparently killing him/her for that is ok, didn't 11 commandments say "you'll not kill", why would killing killers be ok, it's still killing (not starting anti execution debate, just pointing out your arguement has actual counter-arguments, in your own country!)

And yes the US takes care, he took care during McCarthism and is also during Patriot Act, which is VERY actual, if you MORALY (only) support Al Qaeda in USA openly and doing NOTHING ELSE than moral support, you'll SURELY be suspected to be a terrorist, the spying, preventive incarceration and all will come along! Like it was for communism during McNazism (ooops sorry hehe) period.
So...don't throw that, same here.

Apparently this westboro baptist church (from lil research I did) are a group of moronic extremists, and scientologic church looks like angels compared to them...Their IQ must be close to negative IQ (WBC members) which is very interesting for any scientific who makes research at people who haven't evolved correctly mentally
Only eventually WWASP creators could equal them in negative intelligence quotient..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_pu ... ted_States

38 out of the 50, 12 states do not allow capital punishment so the killer thing is not always true.

The al-queda thing. Probably, but if you knew, theres lots of protests against said act, and you should also know that what happened with McCarthy is a very infamous moment of the country. BUT that does not mean you can hold our country responsible for those moments.


As for westboro, just because you don't like them, they arent good, that doesn't sound like ANYONE i know,

Apadamek Of Watches wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_pu ... ted_States

38 out of the 50, 12 states do not allow capital punishment so the killer thing is not always true.

The al-queda thing. Probably, but if you knew, theres lots of protests against said act, and you should also know that what happened with McCarthy is a very infamous moment of the country. BUT that does not mean you can hold our country responsible for those moments.


As for westboro, just because you don't like them, they arent good, that doesn't sound like ANYONE i know,

I know not all states do death punishment. PLUS on those 38 there are quite SOME (don't remember names) who do VERY rarely that, if not not anymore, even if still allowed legally.

Oh yes I can, there's a difference between investigation and mass accusations of being communism, because any person who hates his neighboor because he damaged partially his car last sunday would by vengeance denunciate said person to be a communist...that's how it goes. I hope Patriot Act doesn't work also on denunciations, because that would be a new low (not law lol) for Bush gov.

I don't get your sentance about westboro, the part after "you don't like them".

Åpophis ™ wrote: Such party don't even deserve to be allowed to act and militate...
They only deserve to be emprisonned for life (if not going to death row!)

Right there, is the same attitude H/itler had towards the Jews. You say you hate na-zi's, while at the same time preaching a lesser form of what they did. And im not talking only about "Such party don't even deserve to be allowed to act and militate...
They only deserve to be emprisonned for life (if not going to death row!)" I mean the fact that they suppressed anti na-zi/H.itler views. Which is pretty much the same thing this petition is doing, only the other way, and without all the murder.

Just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean someone shouldn't be able to say it. Sure look down on people with seemingly low views all you want, fair enough, you dont agree with them, thats your choice and you dont have to agree with them. But at the same time people shouldnt have to be silent just so those who dont agree, however few or many are happy because they cant have a perfect little happy world.

People have views
People have opinions
People wont always agree with these, so they can either ignore it, get over it, or suck it up.

we silence nazi propoganda because some of it is racial againt jews. plus this was a stupid thing to put on the forums, just gonna start an arguement.

Vendetta wrote:

Åpophis ™ wrote: Such party don't even deserve to be allowed to act and militate...
They only deserve to be emprisonned for life (if not going to death row!)

Right there, is the same attitude H/itler had towards the Jews. You say you hate na-zi's, while at the same time preaching a lesser form of what they did. And im not talking only about "Such party don't even deserve to be allowed to act and militate...
They only deserve to be emprisonned for life (if not going to death row!)" I mean the fact that they suppressed anti na-zi/H.itler views. Which is pretty much the same thing this petition is doing, only the other way, and without all the murder.

Just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean someone shouldn't be able to say it. Sure look down on people with seemingly low views all you want, fair enough, you dont agree with them, thats your choice and you dont have to agree with them. But at the same time people shouldnt have to be silent just so those who dont agree, however few or many are happy because they cant have a perfect little happy world.

People have views
People have opinions
People wont always agree with these, so they can either ignore it, get over it, or suck it up.

I can remind the fact in most of USA states they kill killers with death row...so it's commonly used to answer something by the same thing. Collabos after the war were mass assassinated, they get back what they did to directly or undirectly to others, one day people have to pay. Jews did nothing to nazis, while nazis did something to jews and all europe, that's why my opinion is more acceptable than their, as they started it for no reason apart of just pure stupidity (or racism, but that's synonyms lol)...

Im not saying anyone is right or wrong. And yes apophis I know, and agree, that almost everything in this world is hipocritical in some way. I just hate it when people preach that they or thier view is in the right, or better/more acceptable than the other. Dosnt matter what the reasoning behind it is, the acts in themselves are all just as bad as eachother, wehter it be silencing something, killing someone, whatever. And people need to realise that.

To put it simply, everyone is an **Filtered**, and everyone will be hipocritcal about multiple things throughout thier life. Thats all well and good, just dont pretend to be innocent.

yes but Apophis, those people KILLED people to be put on death row. Through ALL of the communist trials, they were trials, and only two people were executed.

As for the Naz1's unless they've comitted a crime they should not be imprisoned.

Apadamek Of Watches wrote:yes but Apophis, those people KILLED people to be put on death row. Through ALL of the communist trials, they were trials, and only two people were executed.

As for the Naz1's unless they've comitted a crime they should not be imprisoned.

Don't you get that they are sorta "hiring mercs"? (neo nazziS)
Most of "thinking heads" aren't really in actions, they in theories,but those who act are morons will slmall brains, it's like hiring a killer to kill someone, to keep your hands "clean". They do same, they manipulate stupid people to make them act what they would wish to do, but don't want considering they would be emprisonned.
So they are still responsible of murders and violence done, "Do not blame only the one who shot the bullet, but also the one(s) who ordered him/her to do so"!