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Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:07 am
by Thriller
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
have i misunderstood?


All the time :-D

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:06 pm
by Phoenix of Terra
Re: 2008 South Ossetia War


Why are we discussing the benefits of republics in the discussion on the Ossetia crisis?

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:44 pm
by papa~smurf
Phoenix of Terra wrote:
Re: 2008 South Ossetia War


Why are we discussing the benefits of republics in the discussion on the Ossetia crisis?


I started in Bologna when I stepped between the lights
I thought I'd lost my charisma my life flashed between my eyes
The communists rejected me I didn't fit their plan
And anyway I must assume there anti American

euromad
T-Bone Burnett

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:29 am
by S0lid Snake
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Jack wrote:When did I say that a republic was a bad form of government?



Jack wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:so what are we sposed to do when our governments are illegal (there has been no election in england that elected gordon brown, he was given the office of prime minister when tony blair resigned) and are involved in illegal activities?

It's called an armed revolution.


One thing I can't stand about people that go around shouting to the top of their lungs about random conspiracy theories, is that they're all talk and no walk. In one hand they say that no one listens to them, and that the government is "illegal" and doesn't do what it's supposed to. But then they go out and waist their time protesting, like it's really going to help their cause, even after they've spent forever complaining about the government doing what it likes, when it likes.



P.S. I don't know if anyone's brought this up yet or not, but America IS a republic. It's NOT a democracy, which is what you actually want. Which is actually a far worse form of government


have i misunderstood?


I believe Jack meant that democracy is a far worse form of government.

He agrees America is a Republic.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:14 am
by Brdavs
Anyhow, Russia recognises the independance of S Ossetia and Abkhazia...

Wests lining up to blast the "direct violation of numerous U.N. Security Council resolutions regarding Serbi... *kreh* sry *kreh*... Georgia's territorial integrity".


Lol, I`m thinking historians down the line will be laughing their arses off at the selectivness of the so called free democratic world. Politcs really is a drity dirty hoe lol.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:11 am
by urogard
Brdavs wrote:Lol, I`m thinking historians down the line will be laughing their arses off at the selectivness of the so called free democratic world. Politcs really is a drity dirty hoe lol.

Anyways for the first time in a while I gladly accept the stance of the Slovakian government.

They do not accept the existance of abovementioned souvereign states...
But they do not accept the existance of a souvereign Kosovo either.

So another thing I can be proud of that my country is something which the World Terrorist aka USA is not. Consistant.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:09 am
by Kieltyka
urogard wrote:So another thing I can be proud of that my country is something which the World Terrorist aka USA is not. Consistant.


Haha, get over yourself.

By the way it is spelled consistent.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:13 am
by urogard
Kieltyka wrote:Haha, get over yourself.

By the way it is spelled consistent.

So you consider what happened in serbia and now is georgia are different things?
That kosovo wanted independence which the west largerly granted, so it's only logical that ossetia and abkhazia which also want independence get accepted.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:30 am
by Kieltyka
Don't know who you got that from what I said. It was mostly a reply to your insult to America.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:47 pm
by urogard
Don't know who you got that from what I said.
I was asking a question, not necesarily directly related to your rubbish post :P, but more related to your inability to react in an on-topic way.

But I will gladly wait for the answer, because either way I will like it.

These are the only 3 options you can say concerning my question.
Either you agree and say kosovo should go back to serbia and ossetia and abkhazia should go back to georgia.
Or you say kosovo should stay separate but ossetia and abkhazia should stay with georgia.
Or you say kosovo should go back to serbia and ossetia and abkhazia should stay away from georgia.

Every answer is self explanatory why I will gladly enjoy reading it.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:28 pm
by Cole
Oh the problems are coming...Medvedev doesn't care at all about consequences of his move!

Cold War II on the coming?

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:45 pm
by urogard
LegendaryApophis wrote:Oh the problems are coming...Medvedev doesn't care at all about consequences of his move!

Cold War II on the coming?

Consequences of what?
Doing exactly what the west did with kosovo less than half a year ago?

Hmm ye sure. of course there will be consequences.
The consequence of western policy is, as Putin put it when kosovo broke away, coming back like a punch in the face to western countries.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:47 pm
by Cole
urogard wrote:
LegendaryApophis wrote:Oh the problems are coming...Medvedev doesn't care at all about consequences of his move!

Cold War II on the coming?

Consequences of what?
Doing exactly what the west did with kosovo less than half a year ago?

Hmm ye sure. of course there will be consequences.
The consequence of western policy is, as Putin put it when kosovo broke away, coming back like a punch in the face to western countries.

Did you forget one of gold rules?

"Do what we say but not what we do"

:lol:

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:54 pm
by urogard
LegendaryApophis wrote:Did you forget one of gold rules?

"Do what we say but not what we do"

:lol:

lulz :P

nah i think it's more that the USA is trying to keep up their illusion of superiority, but will learn soon who really has the rudder in the hand. Russia is back on stage after a bit over a decade of oblivion and reformation and China will be with them in a short moment.

USA will be fourth place in a couple of years.

Re: 2008 South Ossetia War

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:40 pm
by Demeisen
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take a good look at where russia is. russia are no where near competing with the usa. lol small and relatively new canada makes more naq than proud ancient russia.

urogard wrote:illusion of superiority

nato is superior. theres no illusion, unless i miss something? :?

i can see china overtaking the west in terms of economic power. i dont believe this will drastically change the world though. china is often introspective. if you dont mess around inside their borders they dont mess within yours (overtly)

this situation seems to be escalating. current russian and western polotics are playing a big role it seems. recognising the two new states knowing it would heighten tension is stupid. russia thinks its the mighty bear showing its strength to the world. if it pushes too far what then? war? the next war after that one would be fought with bows and arrows.

russia would loose any such cold war II. it can not compete on equal footing with nato in prolonged hostility. it has much to loose. it needs to stop flexing its muscles unless it wants some M.A.D. party.

i can think of few things worse than a new cold war. history will judge the agressor in this by their actions. and i sincerely hope the west doesnt help rebuild russia after they fall again.