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Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:06 am
by Rich™
Myseri wrote:Mato wrote:Myseri wrote:Minor question, my ascended is not attached to my main, nor do I want it attached. But what would happen if I hit the "permanently de-ascend" action?
err.. you just have admited that you have more than 1 account
explain how I have more then one account?
I have one ascended account, and I have one main account. That is, in no way, breaking the game's rules. If it is then we are all screwed.
cos ascended accounts are linked to main accounts, you get the former by ascending in the later
"Minor question, my ascended is not attached to my main, nor do I want it attached."
if they aint attached then you got an ascended account from another account, ergo two accounts.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:25 am
by Mojo Rising
then there is no reason for the updates. If you guys don't like the game how it is, quit. No one is stopping you. however, if what he is doing is just creating a second server the same as the first, I recommend just combining the servers. It would solve a lot of problems. Those that sacrificed in ascension get something back and those that didn't still have the combined might of their ascension and main accounts.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:27 am
by Neimenljivi
Mojo Rising wrote:then there is no reason for the updates. If you guys don't like the game how it is, quit. No one is stopping you. however, if what he is doing is just creating a second server the same as the first, I recommend just combining the servers. It would solve a lot of problems. Those that sacrificed in ascension get something back and those that didn't still have the combined might of their ascension and main accounts.
I didn't say I don't like it...u were the one with a lot of...hm...strange ideas 
~N
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:29 am
by Mojo Rising
@Myseri,
Yes I am afraid they are right Myseri. In order to have an ascended account that is not attached to a main account means that you have a main account that can still ascend and an ascension account with an attached main account somewhere. Therefore you have two accounts (at least). My question to you is, why would you do such a thing and why would you admit to it in open Forum?
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:14 am
by Myseri
You are welcome to god quest my account all you like. I ascended the main account to get my ascended account as did everyone else. I then deleted my main account due to issues with Pianomutt and started over with another main account. It is not an ascended account so I only have one ascended account and one main account. They are just not linked. I have the disadvantage of not being able to currently improve my ascended account by ascending my main account. I also have had no plans on ascending this main account. If I ever decide to ascend it I will have to talk to admin first and get the issue resolved since ascended accounts cannot be deleted currently. Or if as my first questions asked if I deascend myself and I have no main account currently linked to the ascended account will it create a main shell. Then I would have the issue of two main account and have to deal with that. I am surely not the only person with this issue since I know of one other that has this same circumstance as me.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:18 am
by generaloneill
Myseri wrote:You are welcome to god quest my account all you like. I ascended the main account to get my ascended account as did everyone else. I then deleted my main account due to issues with Pianomutt and started over with another main account. It is not an ascended account so I only have one ascended account and one main account. They are just not linked. I have the disadvantage of not being able to currently improve my ascended account by ascending my main account. I also have had no plans on ascending this main account. If I ever decide to ascend it I will have to talk to admin first and get the issue resolved since ascended accounts cannot be deleted currently. Or if as my first questions asked if I deascend myself and I have no main account currently linked to the ascended account will it create a main shell. Then I would have the issue of two main account and have to deal with that. I am surely not the only person with this issue since I know of one other that has this same circumstance as me.
dude, thats not even allowed. Someone spies you on ascended to get your main realm and its not even you? That I would say is an unfair advantage over everyone else.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:39 pm
by chucknorris101
it doesnt say anywhere in the rules that it is not allowed, his main account now is not ascended so they cant descend him if they wanted to - hes not getting any bonuses from it....its a casualty of the pianomutt thing, and its not like he isnt well known enough to not find his main id if he hits u with his ascended account....
the only problem hed have is if he wished to ascend and since he said hes not going to....it shouldnt be a problem
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:47 pm
by Rich™
chucknorris101 wrote:if he hits u with his ascended account....
how would you know its him? change name on ascended, and if you god quest you'll get someone elses main account name, and you'll end up massing the wrong guy.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:54 pm
by Myseri
I wanted to make sure that if the account is deascended there is no main shell created and it ending up looking like I am multiing. The names on both accounts are the same.
As I said, I know of others that have this same situation. They have bought and sold accounts and kept the ascended account from one of their accounts and are playing a different main account. This all started with not being able to delete the ascended account when a main account was deleted.
I do not beleive I am cheating since I got my account through the proper method. I did not buy an ascended account I ascended my main account. I do not have any unfair advantage since both my accounts have the same name on them. God quest won't give you the answer but simply searching my name will. I do not hide who I am and do not put anyone else at risk of being massed by something I did.
You won't get someone elses main name, there is no account in main linked to that account.
I like them not being linked but if linking them is the answer then so be it.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:00 pm
by Sinath
On to another point.
what has it been now, 3 days without any word from Jason?
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:27 pm
by Munchy
Tomorrow is admin chat day. If nothing else we will hear stuff then
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:36 pm
by TheRook
Myseri wrote:I wanted to make sure that if the account is deascended there is no main shell created and it ending up looking like I am multiing. The names on both accounts are the same.
As I said, I know of others that have this same situation. They have bought and sold accounts and kept the ascended account from one of their accounts and are playing a different main account. This all started with not being able to delete the ascended account when a main account was deleted.
I do not beleive I am cheating since I got my account through the proper method. I did not buy an ascended account I ascended my main account. I do not have any unfair advantage since both my accounts have the same name on them. God quest won't give you the answer but simply searching my name will. I do not hide who I am and do not put anyone else at risk of being massed by something I did.
You won't get someone elses main name, there is no account in main linked to that account.
I like them not being linked but if linking them is the answer then so be it.
A main account that is ascended should have the ascended account details with it they are not seperate entities they are one.
The thing is Myseri you have a non ascended main account (not one that has race changed back to non ascended - if I understood you) and you have an ascension account from an old main account where the main account was deleted.
Technically you shouldn't be on the ascension server because "you" haven't ascended. but if you were to ascend you would then have two ascended accounts and thus multi'ing (I'm not saying you will but just pointing it out)
while you may enjoy playing the two servers from the point of view people will see it is that you shouldn't be playing on the ascended server because your main account hasn't ascended.
its an odd loophole/bug/game option where you can delete your main account but it wont delete your ascended acc
TheRook
@ everyone waiting for admin he is probably working on bug testing and get everything alright... I know from my experience some times its just easier to crack on with the coding/testing rather than getting distracted
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:42 pm
by Myseri
I tried deleting my ascended at the time I deleted my main. But it says "you decide you just aren't ready yet and stay a little while longer"
So I put the account on vacation mode. I took it off because I was interested in playing again. I had the "joy" of ascending once anyways, and it was ME who ascended that account, not someone else that I bought the account off of.
There is no advantage right now to what I do, as there is no disadvantage either. If you de-ascend an account that is linked to an a "non-ascended" race, nothing happens besides not letting them play their ascended account for a bit. That is basically what happens to me, I was de-ascended andcouldn't play my ascended account.
But being a "non-ascended" race I do not get any benifits from the ascended account. I do not get the +5% to each category like other priors would. If admin wants to link the two he can, but I think I will probably chose to keep my non-ascended race. Unless admin is willing to "upgrade" my account to that of a prior and adjust my values accordingly.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:58 pm
by Saber
Myseri what happened to you would be the same thing as if you ascended and then race changed to a none ascended race which would mean you would have to start your ascensions all over again but still have your ascended account were it is. What should happen is that you should contact admin and have him attach your ascended account to your non-ascended main even if you don't plan on ascending ever they should be connected.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:14 pm
by Myseri
He can do that if he wishes, there is no harm either way cept if I was to change name in ascended, and on main, then you "couldn't" find me. Cept wait, a lot of people already know my ID
I was just curious what would happen if you pressed the de-ascend me permanently button without a main account attached.