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Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:48 am
by Sovetski
These two have been brokered for the naq liberated from their accounts by these two attacks...
GameTime: May12 - 02:12.03
00:27 Sovetski [ α Allegiance ] Dave O [ CoTO ] attack 15 Win
00:15 Sovetski [ α Allegiance ] cloud strife2 [ CoTO ] attack 15 Win
50 billion each will be enough to cover unit losses and the resources liberated from each attack. (I generally work on amount taken plus 10% rounding to the nearest 5 billion)
Sovetski Dave O 50,000,000,001 Naquadah 1 Naquadah 04:00 Open (expires May 14, 2008 ). For Violation of NAP
Sovetski cloud strife2 50,000,000,001 Naquadah 1 Naquadah 04:00 Open (expires May 14, 2008 ).
These occurred after the treaty came into effect and thus are warranted for reimbursement. As Geisha has pointed out, instead of crying fowl a simple consultation between leaders would have sufficed.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:04 am
by Xeen
Basically such pool is totaly unworthy one.
How anybody can say "he trust or dont trust an empire".
I can say I trust promises of individual persons I already met ingame or personally and they did not betray me.
We joined OE and tried to properly inform all our members. It was a big move for mH and I think we solved fast and properly all issues and hits (it was 2 or 3) we made to players covered by our new NAPs.
We also respected all our former NAPs we agreed before we joined OE no matters the other side broken it multiple (>30) times without making such unworthy pool
.
Any NAP issues with mH alliance can be solved directly with me or Orpheus and we solve it ASAP without any "so called execuses or disrespect".
Xeen the Dragon of mH, member of OE.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:09 am
by Hysteria
Sorry xeen buy you are part of the OE so your point isn't exactly unbiased.
You are hardly going to say "My dealings with my own alliance were Bad"
but thank you for posting anyway
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:14 am
by blahh
hmmm actualy xeen posting reminded me that mh are part of OE, thus part of FUALL, thus moving my position more towards, no you cant trust them, than again, its a personal dislike infused feeling, and a bad smell that folows that particular groop withing FUALL
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:16 am
by Teal'auc of the Void
Hysteria wrote:Sorry xeen buy you are part of the OE so your point isn't exactly unbiased.
You are hardly going to say "My dealings with my own alliance were Bad"
but thank you for posting anyway
If you knew Xeen... you'd never say something like that... 
Anyways, these 'I hate Omega' threads are getting boring... wait... it's not 'we hate Omega' now, it's 'We hate Omega Empire'... Okay, that's new.
In all seriousness tho, as Xeen said - this fuss could be solved with appropriate alliance leadership instead of doing dirty laundry and playing propaganda war again.
Teal'auc of the Tok'ra
Λ MaYHeM Allegiance
High Councilor
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:18 am
by Xeen
Hysteria wrote:Sorry xeen buy you are part of the OE so your point isn't exactly unbiased.
You are hardly going to say "My dealings with my own alliance were Bad"
but thank you for posting anyway
That is what Im pointing.
Those who blindly follows OE will vote YES.
Those who blindly hate OE will vote NO
Those who think about this pool will ignore this pool.
That is why Im not going to vote in this pool. I can made the same "pool" about TLE or about CoTo - both hitted us throught NAP. But it has no sense. If you have problem with individual player talk with him. If it does not work talk with his superior.
Im pretty sure if you would made an option "This pool is completely unworthy" such option would get most points.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:23 am
by XenoX
meh you see what you want to see. If someone got massed by OE member they would be pissed and vote no.. even if they never ever crossed words with a OE member..
(havent voted and wont vote..)
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:25 am
by Hysteria
Again, it's personal experience that prompted my curiousity about other players dealings with OE, in fact the poll so far has OE empire ahead in general opinios as "sticking" to their word
Am I not allowed to ask???
Am I not allowed to show evidence of my dealings with OE???
What aer the points of the polls options and in general the entire Forums if game related questions and issues, etc cannot be asked.
After all we aren't living in China
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:36 am
by Xeen
Hysteria wrote:Again, it's personal experience that prompted my curiousity about other players dealings with OE, in fact the poll so far has OE empire ahead in general opinios as "sticking" to their word
Am I not allowed to ask???
Am I not allowed to show evidence of my dealings with OE???
What aer the points of the polls options and in general the entire Forums if game related questions and issues, etc cannot be asked.
After all we aren't living in China
Sure, you have right to do any pool related to game with any options you decide to made. For me, such pool is as worthy as pool:
"Do you like to be massed by someone?
"Yes anytime"
"Yes often"
"Yes but not too often"
"Yes but ocassionally"
I just only miss an option fits to my opinion.
As well as you have right to made any pool, players have right to think your pool is pure propaganda. And be cause this is public forum they can write their opinion about your pool into your pool topic as well.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:46 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
Don`t you people have anything better to do?
I can`t believe i wasted 30minutes reading all this crap.
Hysteria, your posts are as "biased" as Xeens post so to quote you.
All misunderstandings have been dealt with or are about to be resolved. WHERE IS THE PROBLEM?
What you are doing is just poor propaganda that just prooves how weak some of the TO members are (i`m talking here about you and no one else - anyone else touched by this phrase is also weak).
Have a nice week.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:48 am
by Hysteria
xeen, Please respect it for what it is.....
After all I could say that mayhem were so week that they ran into the arms of OE and then make a poll about it. I know mayhem are not weak and have no evidence of such so I think you can see this is not an I hate someone thread.
You are never going to make everyone happy and I only asked 3 points and used my experiences as the basis for the poll
In any poll you have to give examples about the structure of your point of view and request debate and statistics so that you may modify your own point of view by gathering more information from varying points of view "Within" the scope of the poll/topic
Again thanks for providing debate material
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:51 am
by Rottenking
Xeen wrote:Hysteria wrote:Sorry xeen buy you are part of the OE so your point isn't exactly unbiased.
You are hardly going to say "My dealings with my own alliance were Bad"
but thank you for posting anyway
That is what Im pointing.
Those who blindly follows OE will vote YES.
Those who blindly hate OE will vote NO
Those who think about this pool will ignore this pool.
That is why Im not going to vote in this pool. I can made the same "pool" about TLE or about CoTo - both hitted us throught NAP. But it has no sense. If you have problem with individual player talk with him. If it does not work talk with his superior.
Im pretty sure if you would made an option "This pool is completely unworthy" such option would get most points.
thats generaly BS.
i don't particularly like OE, no specific reason just don't fancy them.
and i voted you could trust them because in the dealings i have had in regards to naps, they have been quite honorable in the past
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:52 am
by Mojo Rising
Can you trust the Omega Empire? That's like asking "Can you trust the United States/England/insert favorite country name here?"
Individuals are individuals and you have to build a trust relationship with each individual. I will freely admit that there are members (OK actually only one) of my own alliance that I don't trust and there are other members of other alliances that I would lay down my life for.
I also have certain "personal" responses to being attacked on ascension. Anyone who has EVER had dealings with me knows this (and there are a lot of you) so anyone can pretty much ask around and say hey, "If I attack Mojo Rising in ascension, what will happen?" and they will tell you, "Train up your assassins, go on critical, and pray." I don't look at tags for the most part because tags can be forged. If you are farming me in ascension and you don't have enough assassins, well "Doom on you". TO knows this very well as I used to be in DD and TO/DD were once allies.
@caesar,
My MSN is
master_thespian@hotmail.com. IM me and we can discuss things. But, ask around your alliance first and let them tell you that you got off "lightly" for your incursion into my realm (you still had weapons and a defense left). You might want to consider investing in some assassins if you are going to go farming.
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:58 am
by Brdavs
blahh
Xeen wrote:We also respected all our former NAPs we agreed before we joined OE no matters the other side broken it multiple (>30) times without making such unworthy pool
.
You can`t brake something that doesn`t exist.
In all seriousness, however nonintentioned, this tread has "hate thread" slapped all over it heh... Like asking "is yo momma smaller than a rihno after her last diet?" and hoping ppl wont take into the "yo momma is faaaaat d00de" direction....
However... I do seem to remember a certain thread(s) where ppl rued how Omega was no longer the resident guilty party but TLE was... Same people there are her singing a completley different tune... c`mon, enjoy, your moment is again here (for now... 2morrow TLE again takes the batton away from ye)
Can you trust the Omega Empire? That's like asking "Can you trust the United States/England/insert favorite country name here?"
Is that supposed to be helfull heh? Answer to that/those question is/are well known in the international community heh
Re: Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:11 am
by Brdavs
Edit: lol wrong topic
You saw nothing embaressing here. This is not the blamage you seek. Move allong.