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Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:00 pm
by Draleg
A post being " something that is open to the forum community " is not specificly a war tread , it was moved for that reason , at least that is wat is claimed , imho it was moved cos it made PMT2k look bad , if you read the msn convo and look @the screenshot its obvius.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:01 pm
by Mordack
This thread is ridiculous.
If your problem is that Bill didn't appreciate your thread, and pointed it out to a moderator, then that isn't anything which can be solved in this section of the forum. This isn't Oprah, and we aren't into mediating friendship disputes.
The only way this thread should stand is if you've taken umbridge with the fact that the thread was removed by whichever moderator moved it, and you feel it should have remained in general for whatever reason. That's the potential issue here. The drama is irrelevant.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:03 pm
by Quina Quen
Another example of a lack of information leading to presumption. I whole heartedly agree, this is becoming ridiculous. End of topic please before it gets even more ridiculous?
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:04 pm
by pianomutt20000
Mordack wrote:This thread is ridiculous.
If your problem is that Bill didn't appreciate your thread, and pointed it out to a moderator, then that isn't anything which can be solved in this section of the forum. This isn't Oprah, and we aren't into mediating friendship disputes.
The only way this thread should stand is if you've taken umbridge with the fact that the thread was removed by whichever moderator moved it, and you feel it should have remained in general for whatever reason. That's the potential issue here. The drama is irrelevant.
agreed.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:10 pm
by Draleg
NO , i want this to stay here , i see this tread as neutral ground .
As for removel of this post to the dump , mabee you need to specify wat dump , the public one or the hidden one.
Your already got one tread " moved " i think it wold be wise to let this one stay ware it is.
And i am against locking it for the time being.
You see i to feel i am correct.
this is : Forum Specific Issues/Requests/Bugs (NOT GAME ISSUES)
Ombudsman's corner =
Report all your problems regarding the forum staff here
Bill is not staff , he was elected by the users.
Forum & Mod Feedback =
want to publicly say something about the current Forum Mods? The Mod setup? The Rules of the Forum? here you go...
Bill is not a mod.
Talk to the Mods Direct =
Want to address a Forum Mod directly? Here you go...
If you want a SPECIFIC mod, use PM, but for any mod, this is the quickest place...
The only place it may just be posible to move to ...
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:17 pm
by Lore
Draleg wrote:NO , i want this to stay here , i see this tread as neutral ground .
As for removel of this post to the dump , mabee you need to specify wat dump , the public one or the hidden one.
Your already got one tread " moved " i think it wold be wise to let this one stay ware it is.
And i am against locking it for the time being.
You see i to feel i am correct.
As an Admin I say leave this thread here for now.
But now you need to make your case Draleg, Weather it makes bill look bad or not is irrelevant, it was removed to stop the poster from reciving a warning for breaking a forum rule, so in effect it saved someone a warning.
Make your case, state whats wrong and why, and state what actions you would like to see.
As it stands right now, this SHOULD be in Bill section and not here, but I'll give you some time to make your case on "neutral ground" as you say.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:18 pm
by Clarkey
Looks like I do have to be dragged in to this afterall. *sigh* I don't like being used.
Earlier tonight I was added to an MSN convo.
I have split the whole convo in to 3 screens so that it is all covered here.[spoiler]

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Think of it what you may.
FIRST IMAGE:
Bill did all the talking on their side and not DD.
This conversation lasts for 2 minutes 47 seconds before Bill leaves.
Bill leaves the conversation at the end of that image once I have moved the thread to the dump.
SECOND IMAGE
42 seconds after Bill leaves the conversation DD finally says something.
I am not insinuating anything here, but as i said "THINK OF IT WHAT YOU MAY".
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:23 pm
by pianomutt20000
I tried to send you the screenshot where louis said fine to get rid of it.
THAT, is when I contacted you.
Also, i'd remove those screenshots due to language, your call though.
I can recall many instances where a thread needed to be moved or deleted
because the author cannot do so due to responses. This was the case here.
IF louis hadn't said fine, I wouldn't have contacted the mod and so forth.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:24 pm
by Quina Quen
Well there it is folks. Younger readers will have to pardon my language - but MSN is afterall a private chat client.
But Bill? I said 'fine'? Man, this goes beyond forum rules. This is about you not having a little faith in someone, which is offensive.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:29 pm
by Lore
Diamond Dust wrote:Well there it is folks. Younger readers will have to pardon my language - but MSN is afterall a private chat client.
Did you or did you not give the ok to remove it?
secondly, do you understand it breaches the standing forum rule concerning the FUALL/TJP war and threads about it?
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:32 pm
by Quina Quen
I did
not want the thread removed on the basis that it would do Bill a favour (in my mind) to swallow some pride and allow someone different to mediate with GunZ (and Omega), and no, I was not aware of the rules regarding threads with FUALL/TJP. I asked Bill if there was anything important I should know before posting. At no point was I informed that I wasn't allowed to create a thread regarding the issue.
Diamond Dust wrote:I'll take responsibility for not reading every last ounce of the nonsense that goes on in GC, and therefore responsibility for not being aware of any such rule that inhibits me from posting a surrender topic for a 'friend'.
Quoted for clarification.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:33 pm
by pianomutt20000
Diamond Dust wrote:I did not want the thread removed on the basis that it would do Bill a favour (in my mind) to swallow some pride and allow someone different to mediate with GunZ (and Omega), and no, I was not aware of the rules regarding threads with FUALL/TJP. I asked Bill if there was anything important I should know before posting. At no point was I informed that I wasn't allowed to create a thread regarding the issue.
Sorry that my memory sucks, i didn't realize you would post anything publically.
I told you i'd join your alliance, if you got fuall to accept my surrender. Didn't expect it to happen tbh.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:34 pm
by Draleg
my point is made , read Clarkey post above , if you dont see anything wrong with wat Bill did then read my msn convo again , and then read DD convo again.
If you still cant see it , then i just started a lost cause and i must be the one witch has the wrong moral value .
Wat do i want done , i'm not the jury , you , the mod team decide , i just hope you can agree on somthing and publicly post it.
secondly, do you understand it breaches the standing forum rule concerning the FUALL/TJP war and threads about it?
i dont , and i already posted why.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:36 pm
by pianomutt20000
Draleg wrote:my point is made , read Clarkey post above , if you dont see anything wrong with wat Bill did then read my msn convo again , and then read DD convo again.
If you still cant see it , then i just started a lost cause and i must be the one witch has the wrong moral value .
Wat do i want done , i'm not the jury , you , the mod team decide , i just hope you can agree on somthing and publicly post it.
secondly, do you understand it breaches the standing forum rule concerning the FUALL/TJP war and threads about it?
i dont , and i already posted why.
Actually, it's not the mod team.
It's the ombudsman and admins job.
But thanx anyways.
Re: Deleted / closed post on main forum
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:37 pm
by Lore
Draleg wrote:secondly, do you understand it breaches the standing forum rule concerning the FUALL/TJP war and threads about it?
i dont , and i already posted why.
That part was aimed at DD not you. I got your point
