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Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:09 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
There is but one solution to this poll.
I of course voted to keep them together, because if I have had to work to keep my ascended active, why would i want all that to go to waste? Not to mention the time and resources spent ascending.

War also dictates, in most cases, descensions for tactical advantages. Take away an Unknown's AB and they
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in some instances.
Therefore I can see from the vote splatter it was to keep them joined by blunt trauma to the server.
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Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:40 pm
by Angelis~
If you want the servers split then I assume you don't want your ascensions levels and the bonus's that come with them as well? Because that's how they are linked. People who choose the ascend gain the bonus's and entrance into the ascended server. The ascended server is there to fight and play with other ascended beings and to protect your main ascended account.
I, of course, voted the bottom one. I've put years of work into my ascended mainly in the areas of descension and now your trying to take away such work. It's, to say the least, very frustrating.
I personally play my ascended more then I play my main. It actually takes work and dedication to get anywhere in the server and that I would like to continue.
However, I do agree that the server needs fixing and tweaks more then ridiculous updates.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:09 pm
by Noobert
Angelis~ wrote:If you want the servers split then I assume you don't want your ascensions levels and the bonus's that come with them as well? Because that's how they are linked. People who choose the ascend gain the bonus's and entrance into the ascended server. The ascended server is there to fight and play with other ascended beings and to protect your main ascended account.
I, of course, voted the bottom one. I've put years of work into my ascended mainly in the areas of descension and now your trying to take away such work. It's, to say the least, very frustrating.
I personally play my ascended more then I play my main. It actually takes work and dedication to get anywhere in the server and that I would like to continue.
However, I do agree that the server needs fixing and tweaks more then ridiculous updates.
This post is the reason I could agree with keeping the Ascended server. Mainly the last part of it.
Well thought out posts ftw.
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Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:20 pm
by Ashu
If you split it I think 90% of the server will stop playing it as its not fun, at least not for me. Some sort of link between ascending and ascensions must still exist. But its an interesting idea.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:19 pm
by BMMJ13
Hate it. As much as I may dislike Ascended at times, it has a purpose and many of the things others have said are valid reasons of it's existence. Yes it is a pain to have them linked at times, however that is the point of ascending. More power with more risk.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:42 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
you lose the responsibility of logging in to ascended to maintain your bonus, you lose your bonus.
if the servers are split, ascensions should be reverted, and since that'd destroy most of what anyone who seriously plays has worked for... it's not going to happen.
if you want PPT on Ascension, i disagree. if you're going away, you use Vacation mode. if you're going away for a short while, either risk it, or vacation your ascended. you lose something yes, but hey, what in life is free?
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:21 am
by Acronon
Instead of splitting the servers Jason should just set up a main server that runs without ascension (something that was suggested when ascension came out but was turned away due to the possibility of losing total players on any given server).
Quantum was cool when it was just a mirror of Main that got reset and as was suggested when it came out was a Main server that reset once a year instead of every 3 months; once again it was rejected for the possibility of losing total players on any one server.
In summary, I believe we need a main server just like the one we have now that has no ascensions, keep the cash market in game and remove transfers setting it to reinforce others rather than 'give' (kinda like Chaos had) and since there is no worry of coding to link ascension to it that coding could be used to expand on officer/commander relations/interface/interactivity, alliance relations/interactivity/interface and last but not least; expanding on planets, there is much more that could be done with them.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:16 am
by geisha
Maybe the key is not to split the servers up but to tie them even closer. Wouldn't it make sense to automatically be on PPT or vac mode on ascended when you are on the main server? And wouldn't it be easier for everyone if the in-game names and alliance tags from the main server were automatically copied on the ascended server?
Oh and bring back raiding to ascended. Raiding has always been the key for small and new players to catch up on main, so why not on ascended too?
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:18 am
by Acronon
The reason raid was removed was people untraining all of the targets planets and then raiding everything they had away, too many people were unable to build up while others got too big to go against.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:28 am
by geisha
But why not remove initiate revolution or at least make it less powerful instead of not being able to raid?
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:33 am
by Acronon
And that was the point we brought up when he removed raiding.
It was even suggested at the time that only miners could be revolted and none of the others making it so training military kept your people safe from revolt and raid.
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:18 am
by Cole
Problem, it would be "first in gets all", such as the hour it's implemented, people will rush to raid people who had all as untrained planets (inactives mainly, who could train back to prevent being raided) and end up with quite good planet size. If it's capped, and they happen to be at war, they will raid, use planets to DM/destroy/sab/whatever enemies, raid again, and so on...
Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:34 am
by Noobert
Exactly what Cole said. I've been spying on Ascended against the Legion, and there is quite a few that have over 6B+ planets untrained.
It just makes me even want to attempt to raid the individuals, even when it doesn't work.
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Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:08 am
by Brdavs
I tease, it's what I do.
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As for the Poll, Imma go with "hate it", for obvious selfish reasons.

Re: Splitting the servers !!!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 am
by Kjarkur
geisha wrote:Maybe the key is not to split the servers up but to tie them even closer. Wouldn't it make sense to automatically be on PPT or vac mode on ascended when you are on the main server? And wouldn't it be easier for everyone if the in-game names and alliance tags from the main server were automatically copied on the ascended server?
Oh and bring back raiding to ascended. Raiding has always been the key for small and new players to catch up on main, so why not on ascended too?
x2. Excellent post geisha.