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Patrick wrote:I have to agree with you on this.

I know. Glad we can agree on something...

Apophis The Great ™ wrote:Well educated and high classes ones don't deserve anything more or anything less than other ones. Feodal point of view with priviledge and superiority given by blood is away, since we know it by scientific facts. So your class shouldn't determine your worthness, because there are not low and high forms of human beings...

You confuse the notion of class by merit and class by birth...
There are always the first among families who reach higher levels, thus bringing the family from that point forward to a higher class.
The child of two bums that becomes a millionaire does not promote his parents, but does elevate his children. They will be born in a higher class, thus creating a suitable environment for them to develop their own merit. Lazy scumbags will, even in the highest classes, be shunned. Of course their easy way is to 'descend'... because in a lower class, their being a scumbag is irrelevant. They can portray themselves as 'Gods come down to the common folk' and be revered as deities whilst being the lazy scumbags they are. Of course, their offspring will have to deal with the lower class-situation from birth. This hampers their development, thus decreasing the chances of the scumbags branch of the family to restore their social standing. These are the 'derelict Houses'... a shame, and technically the ones who keep the *problem* of a cross-class society alive. They create unfair competition by lowering into the unsophisticated class.

Look at it this way. A certain baseball player is incredibly good, but the team he is in (the World Champion f.x.) has enough incredibly good players. He then decides to apply at a lower level team. Since he is still 'incredibly good', he's like a God unto the lower level. He hits homerun after homerun, beats everyone and becomes the ultimate player of those levels. His move has caused a falsity, twisted competition.

Theoretical situation can be applied on SGW as well, although there is hardly any heritage-effect, save the commander-officer relation.

F.x. I learnt a lot from Apollo. If I would have had, say, Patrick as my commander for a long time, perhaps I would see statbuilding in a bit of a better light. With Apollo as my CO for a long time, I learnt that fighting without remorse, striking without holding back, and enjoying the game by all of its various aspects is *the* coolest way to play the game. Maybe my heritage comes from her, and the other friends I've had in this game?

Apophis wrote:Only:
.(Neo) Nazis
.Racists
.Terrorists
.Pedophils
.Children Kidnappers (on topic)
.Serial Killers
.Fanatics

are less worth than others, rest is equally worth for me. Rich and poor are both made with totally same DNA so well they equal

Animal minds? Fanatics!? Terrorists?! One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter... and fanatics? Zealous religionists, or ideologists... merely people who are quite convinced they're right. As for the other groups... I will not comment. I recommend sociopaths be exterminated at root and seed.



As for your constant returning to "equal"... you should take note of the inherent difference between "equal" and "equally valued".

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:

Apophis The Great ™ wrote:Well educated and high classes ones don't deserve anything more or anything less than other ones. Feodal point of view with priviledge and superiority given by blood is away, since we know it by scientific facts. So your class shouldn't determine your worthness, because there are not low and high forms of human beings...

You confuse the notion of class by merit and class by birth...
There are always the first among families who reach higher levels, thus bringing the family from that point forward to a higher class.
The child of two bums that becomes a millionaire does not promote his parents, but does elevate his children. They will be born in a higher class, thus creating a suitable environment for them to develop their own merit. Lazy scumbags will, even in the highest classes, be shunned. Of course their easy way is to 'descend'... because in a lower class, their being a scumbag is irrelevant. They can portray themselves as 'Gods come down to the common folk' and be revered as deities whilst being the lazy scumbags they are. Of course, their offspring will have to deal with the lower class-situation from birth. This hampers their development, thus decreasing the chances of the scumbags branch of the family to restore their social standing. These are the 'derelict Houses'... a shame, and technically the ones who keep the *problem* of a cross-class society alive. They create unfair competition by lowering into the unsophisticated class.

Look at it this way. A certain baseball player is incredibly good, but the team he is in (the World Champion f.x.) has enough incredibly good players. He then decides to apply at a lower level team. Since he is still 'incredibly good', he's like a God unto the lower level. He hits homerun after homerun, beats everyone and becomes the ultimate player of those levels. His move has caused a falsity, twisted competition.

Theoretical situation can be applied on SGW as well, although there is hardly any heritage-effect, save the commander-officer relation.

F.x. I learnt a lot from Apollo. If I would have had, say, Patrick as my commander for a long time, perhaps I would see statbuilding in a bit of a better light. With Apollo as my CO for a long time, I learnt that fighting without remorse, striking without holding back, and enjoying the game by all of its various aspects is *the* coolest way to play the game. Maybe my heritage comes from her, and the other friends I've had in this game?

Hmmm do I see promotion of merit system where those who are lazy fall and those who "fight" go higher?
Afterall those who deserve are not the elites only, but the ones from lower to higher classes who try to work and succeed and fight for it.

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:

Apophis wrote:Only:
.(Neo) Nazis
.Racists
.Terrorists
.Pedophils
.Children Kidnappers (on topic)
.Serial Killers
.Fanatics

are less worth than others, rest is equally worth for me. Rich and poor are both made with totally same DNA so well they equal

Animal minds? Fanatics!? Terrorists?! One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter... and fanatics? Zealous religionists, or ideologists... merely people who are quite convinced they're right. As for the other groups... I will not comment. I recommend sociopaths be exterminated at root and seed.



As for your constant returning to "equal"... you should take note of the inherent difference between "equal" and "equally valued".

Nah animal minds for those Xeno mentionned.
Nazis=animal
Racists='tarded
Terrorists=blinded minds
Pedophils=animals
Children kidnappers=bad people
Serial Killers=psychopats
Fanatics=blinded minds

Who are sociopaths? I dont see translation, so can I have a def?

Nah animal minds for those Xeno mentionned.
Nazis=animal
Racists='tarded
Terrorists=blinded minds
Pedophils=animals
Children kidnappers=bad people
Serial Killers=psychopats
Fanatics=blinded minds

'Animal minds' only holds if we believe man is more than an rational animal to begin with – though then we are in for yet another world of definitions, arguments, and paradoxes.
If we feel man is just another animal, then the Nazi's should be applauded for recognizing that (as only natural) some elements of humanity have evolved faster than others. We feed on life forms of lesser evolution, merely killing them is hardly worse neh?


(Just to be clear, I abhor the Nazi party.)

Who are sociopaths? I dont see translation, so can I have a def?

Simple definition:
Sociopaths are those who hate society/humanity. A serial killer can be a good example, if he did all the murders simply because he hated his fellow man.


We seem to be getting off-topic, a split will probably arrive later.

The Xeno wrote:

Nah animal minds for those Xeno mentionned.
Nazis=animal
Racists='tarded
Terrorists=blinded minds
Pedophils=animals
Children kidnappers=bad people
Serial Killers=psychopats
Fanatics=blinded minds

'Animal minds' only holds if we believe man is more than an rational animal to begin with – though then we are in for yet another world of definitions, arguments, and paradoxes.
If we feel man is just another animal, then the Nazi's should be applauded for recognizing that (as only natural) some elements of humanity have evolved faster than others. We feed on life forms of lesser evolution, merely killing them is hardly worse neh?


(Just to be clear, I abhor the Nazi party.)

Who are sociopaths? I dont see translation, so can I have a def?

Simple definition:
Sociopaths are those who hate society/humanity. A serial killer can be a good example, if he did all the murders simply because he hated his fellow man.


We seem to be getting off-topic, a split will probably arrive later.

What I meant is that they are on a past evolution level, not as evolved as us

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:Patrick as my commander for a long time, perhaps I would see statbuilding in a bit of a better light. With Apollo as my CO for a long time, I learnt *the* coolest way to play the game.

hmm not sure if thats an insult.

I believe everyone should be treated how they act.

Currently most of the worlds punishment systems are all messed up, basic logic dictates that if someone was convicted of GBH then the only true punishment would be for equal pain to be inflicted upon them when appropriate.

on topic, its looking worse and worse for the girls future, a part of me hopes she is dead when compared to what she might be going through.

Please sign this petition if you agree with the following statement.

We believe that until Gerry and Kate McCann are found not to be involved in any way in poor little Maddy's death, the Fund should be frozen and none of the money collected to be used towards the parents legal battle

http://www.petitiononline.com/232037/petition.html

Done.

And I said all the along that the parents were suspicious.

generaloneill wrote:Please sign this petition if you agree with the following statement.

We believe that until Gerry and Kate McCann are found not to be involved in any way in poor little Maddy's death, the Fund should be frozen and none of the money collected to be used towards the parents legal battle

http://www.petitiononline.com/232037/petition.html

lol what the bloody hell does a cardiologist and a general practitioner need money for?