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Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:27 am
by High Empty
Raven wrote:Dirtnap wrote:im not insulting ya forum but can u give us a yelll just saying that ur taking this into consideration
everyone wants it and its simple to implement
and youll also have the pleasure of proving mojo wrong

that alone must be worth it
Not everyone wants it.....dont make me get 20 people to seriously doubt the good intentions of this update

raven GET the 20 people. PLEASE.
And Lord Zeus, this update doesn't allow my account to grow much at all. 600k or 6mil isnt' much of a differents when my upgrades cost 250mil.
but 60k to 600k ,when your updates only cost 150k makes a differents.
and yes this makes accounts easiers to descend. Infact this makes accounts that would otherwise be pretty undescendable descended able. But it doesn't hurt active accounts who were worried about descending cause they can finds means around it.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:50 am
by Hensenshi
I fail to see how this makes accounts easier to descend. It just changes the numbers. Instead of destroying 20k lifeforce, you destroy 70k life force, but at the same time the life force is worth less.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:17 pm
by ~Krys~
it also means people can ammass the LF easier so itlll stilll be hard
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:29 pm
by Raven
People getting LF easier wont really help that much the ascended hits some people can do are still big enough to descend any player who aint got a good reserve in 1 day if this is implented.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:58 pm
by High Empty
Raven wrote:People getting LF easier wont really help that much the ascended hits some people can do are still big enough to descend any player who aint got a good reserve in 1 day if this is implented.
yeah that's true, but then again this update wouldn't really effect those people cause they now don't have more then 1 days reserves. Only people who it has a really negitive impact are tokra and gordash, who have lots of lifeforce, but don't ever spend it. They just use it as way to keep from being descended, and even then it's wouldn't effect them too much cause they still log in 3 times a day. Plus they also go on vacation mode.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:02 pm
by Raven
High Empty wrote:Raven wrote:People getting LF easier wont really help that much the ascended hits some people can do are still big enough to descend any player who aint got a good reserve in 1 day if this is implented.
yeah that's true, but then again this update wouldn't really effect those people cause they now don't have more then 1 days reserves. Only people who it has a really negitive impact are tokra and gordash, who have lots of lifeforce, but don't ever spend it. They just use it as way to keep from being descended, and even then it's wouldn't effect them too much cause they still log in 3 times a day. Plus they also go on vacation mode.
I agree to a certain point on what your saying....i just dont think someone gotta be down forever cause some bigger player starts picking on you.....they have no chance to retaliate or to protect themselves......and vacation mode is an option but it really isnt that nice.....
If a couple good ascension would fix that problem it wouldnt to bad cause then they have a choice but it really isnt helping......there is no way you can ascend against the bigger accounts up there
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:14 pm
by High Empty
WEll your right ofcourse, but the idea isnt' that any tom **Filtered** harry or moe can just say hey i feal like playing ascension, and damn i going to pick on the top 5, cause to be honest, they can't. Frist cause well the top 5 been there for awhile and have a large power base, and further cause due to the rank mod they can't attack the top 5, nor can the top 5 attack anyone ranked lower then 1000. and that's questionable.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:11 pm
by Timmy
thanks for the explanation High Empty
just thinking should the ascension limit be increase if Life Force is?
just to get peoples ideas on that
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:23 pm
by Lord_Zeus
Ok, its not a terrible idea, but it really does just allow every account that you guys aim to descend able to be descended, lets be honest, if this was implemented and dd stocked up their turns and attacked, you could just wipe out the entire server... You can do this already pretty much but there are strats to stop you getting descended. The only way I would support this would be if the upgrade was optional, a little button saying (click me, I'll increase your lf max by 10, but beware...)
Yes this would totally devastate my strategy and I would go on vacation if something like this happened, but it also hurts every other player that doesnt have a monster ascended account should someone with a monster choose to attack.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:01 pm
by High Empty
Ok, its not a terrible idea, but it really does just allow every account that you guys aim to descend able to be descended, lets be honest, if this was implemented and dd stocked up their turns and attacked, you could just wipe out the entire server... You can do this already pretty much but there are strats to stop you getting descended. The only way I would support this would be if the upgrade was optional, a little button saying (click me, I'll increase your lf max by 10, but beware...)
Yes this would totally devastate my strategy and I would go on vacation if something like this happened, but it also hurts every other player that doesnt have a monster ascended account should someone with a monster choose to attack.
re:
well think your strategy is to save up lifeforce so that you can't get descended, well fine just save up more. what's the differents between 5mil and 50mil. Nothing it's just a point!
As for DD going thur and descending everyone, well they aren't gods, good players and well play as gods but still, they only got 2k turns each. and if you think for 2 mins that they aren't mostly all at max turns i got a bridge in brooklyn i can sell you.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:38 pm
by Lord_Zeus
High Empty wrote:Ok, its not a terrible idea, but it really does just allow every account that you guys aim to descend able to be descended, lets be honest, if this was implemented and dd stocked up their turns and attacked, you could just wipe out the entire server... You can do this already pretty much but there are strats to stop you getting descended. The only way I would support this would be if the upgrade was optional, a little button saying (click me, I'll increase your lf max by 10, but beware...)
Yes this would totally devastate my strategy and I would go on vacation if something like this happened, but it also hurts every other player that doesnt have a monster ascended account should someone with a monster choose to attack.
re:
well think your strategy is to save up lifeforce so that you can't get descended, well fine just save up more. what's the differents between 5mil and 50mil. Nothing it's just a point!
As for DD going thur and descending everyone, well they aren't gods, good players and well play as gods but still, they only got 2k turns each. and if you think for 2 mins that they aren't mostly all at max turns i got a bridge in brooklyn i can sell you.
There is a Huge difference between 5 mil and 50 mil, 50 bil dmu and 500 bil dmu. your alliance may have the power to keep all their planets and get resources from it, No other alliance except perhaps omega (if you guys decided to attack) does. Sure they "may" keep all their planets, but thats only because you are letting them keep it. I don't think its a good thing to simply throw all this extra power into the hands of the people who are already control the entire server.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:01 pm
by ~Krys~
high empty awesome idea
now all their is to gain is for the people that play this server what else could people ask for in an update
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:48 am
by Munchy
I like it if it is optional, or even changeable (like once every month or two), otherwise my vote is no.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:08 pm
by Mathlord
I agree with what Munchy said. I would like to comment that there are plenty more people that get attacked on ascension than those who “run their mouth off” as you put it, unless you mean anyone that disagrees with someone’s point of view.
Also, you have to realize in dealing with posts on this forum that most of the common posters on these forums are the people or friends of the people who run ascended now anyway, so do you really think it is in their best interests to help out the smaller people who are their competition? I mean, just look at who has posted in favor so far. Also, a lot of the people who would have problems with this don’t have accounts on the forum so if they did vote, they would have to register and would then be yelled at for being told to post something by their alliance and not that it was an opinion they hold. Believe me…I’ve seen it happen time and time again on here.
So anyway, if they could make this optional, that would be great. But so long as they keep making it easier and easier for the few to mess up everyone else, this game will get less and less competitive to the point of being a joke.
That’s my opinion anyway. Sorry for “running my mouth off”
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:13 pm
by Lore
Mathlord wrote: But so long as they keep making it easier and easier for the few to mess up everyone else, this game will get less and less competitive to the point of being a joke.
FULLY AGREE, and yes the server is already a joke, has been for some time now.
The above statement covers both ends of the server quite well.