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Julietta Putina wrote:

RoKeT wrote:I said it probably would never change anything, but since when was it criticized to get together and try to plan a better future maybe you should take it from Americans and pull your nation out of your ass because the "dutch" couldn't do it doesn't mean we can't... the Dutch can't do a lot of things Amercians can don't forget that

Challenge accepted!

Declare war for the sake of 'freedom': check. (We did that before you existed. Back in 0 AD.)
Murder innocent civilians: check. (We did that before you existed.)
Build ships: check. (We did that before you existed.)
Build houses: check. (We did that before you existed.)
Have history: check. (We have one.)
Have a national debt the size of 5 times the world's GDP? Aw, hell. You got us there, skipper.

Challenge failed. I will wear my funny hat now.

RoKeT wrote:oh and for the stupid stoned without getting arrested thing
research does wonders
Marijuana is not a criminilzed drug you can't get arrested for it in NY

You can't get arrested for spitting on the sidewalk in NY either. Try that in Singapore. Your point is moot.

no that is my point... I'm saying because it didnt' work for one nation doesn't mean it won't for us... we have gun laws, most nations think thats absurd, but ask an American to give up his guns...

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:I think roket made a bad choice putting drugs in here....cause it in no way helps bring the country back.

Cause the drugs is nothing big or wont even do much to help out right now.

if your going to say that then at least retort why you feel that, how do you figure all the things above wouldn't help, how do you figure that a "drug" that does less then alcohol and has less addictive personalities then Alcohol, Nicotine OR Caffeine should be illegalized for recreational?

Unless your talking about the Medical in which case would be even sillier then the above because Medicinal Marijuana is more effective then many neausia drugs, less addictive then ALL painkillers, can be cultivated and regulated by OUR govt. instead of having over seas ship it all in?

please if you really think it should be illegal please explain why bro...

Guild I'll edit this and reply to yours in a sec with "evidence" and an answer to your "crime" question

It does nothing to bring our country back. Please read what i said in the post i made that you quoted and now im quoting.

In the end, it does go good to legalize it right now(if it even will). Sure, if you legalize it and tax it...but you know what.....it doesnt do nothing to make America better. That is why i said, you made a bad choice in putting it in this kind of topic.

how does it not make it better? as a hole it has potential to CURE CANCER, it almost ALWAYS stops depression, allows cancer patients to eat again it stops many personality disorders other then depression such as anger, schizophrenia, paranoia, OCD and many others and thats just the medicinal

money... MONEY... MONEY... I don't think your understanding the boost in our economy it promises, it provides jobs and cleaner burning gas?

THOSE ALL help our country mate?

Oh I am...but you want to know a little history lesson.

You want to know when the last cure for a diease was made??? Over 50 years ago, which was for polio.

Money, money money, is what keeps medical companies getting richer and richer. What do you think will happen to them, once a cure for certain dieases are made? You got it right, they wont be making much money for "trying" to find the cure.

If you dont understand this, then im sorry.



And for the boost, Yes it will boost it, but not no where near enough to make our country better. hell its not even enough to pay for 1 days interests for our over 14tril debt.

RoKeT wrote:no that is my point... I'm saying because it didnt' work for one nation doesn't mean it won't for us... we have gun laws, most nations think thats absurd, but ask an American to give up his guns...

You have gun laws, only because your comrades didn't want to give up their guns. Don't reverse-engineer constitutional history.

Eärendil wrote:There is nothing wrong with the Us Govt. There is only things wrong with those running it, interpreting it, protesting against it and being oblivious of it.

Haha! Makes sense.

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:I think roket made a bad choice putting drugs in here....cause it in no way helps bring the country back.

Cause the drugs is nothing big or wont even do much to help out right now.

if your going to say that then at least retort why you feel that, how do you figure all the things above wouldn't help, how do you figure that a "drug" that does less then alcohol and has less addictive personalities then Alcohol, Nicotine OR Caffeine should be illegalized for recreational?

Unless your talking about the Medical in which case would be even sillier then the above because Medicinal Marijuana is more effective then many neausia drugs, less addictive then ALL painkillers, can be cultivated and regulated by OUR govt. instead of having over seas ship it all in?

please if you really think it should be illegal please explain why bro...

Guild I'll edit this and reply to yours in a sec with "evidence" and an answer to your "crime" question

It does nothing to bring our country back. Please read what i said in the post i made that you quoted and now im quoting.

In the end, it does go good to legalize it right now(if it even will). Sure, if you legalize it and tax it...but you know what.....it doesnt do nothing to make America better. That is why i said, you made a bad choice in putting it in this kind of topic.

how does it not make it better? as a hole it has potential to CURE CANCER, it almost ALWAYS stops depression, allows cancer patients to eat again it stops many personality disorders other then depression such as anger, schizophrenia, paranoia, OCD and many others and thats just the medicinal

money... MONEY... MONEY... I don't think your understanding the boost in our economy it promises, it provides jobs and cleaner burning gas?

THOSE ALL help our country mate?

Oh I am...but you want to know a little history lesson.

You want to know when the last cure for a diease was made??? Over 50 years ago, which was for polio.

Money, money money, is what keeps medical companies getting richer and richer. What do you think will happen to them, once a cure for certain dieases are made? You got it right, they wont be making much money for "trying" to find the cure.

If you dont understand this, then im sorry.


And for the boost, Yes it will boost it, but not no where near enough to make our country better. hell its not even enough to pay for 1 days interests for our over 14tril debt.

a company can't own Marijuana its to widley available so the cure would be cheap and widely available to the public, and 1day of interest? maybe not but it would stop 1day of more debt as well so maybe it doesn't stop the problem but it's 1 of the many steps needed to improve it... and because it's been 50 years since the last cure means nothing Rudy... it can be tomorrow with Technologies we have and research on Marijuana is restricted so it would be a whole new plant and chemical to explore (now mind you one that already has a huge backround for curing and helping with disseases)

and for you Uni all I'm saying is the argument "learn from us we tried it" is not a valid one, if we all went by that we probably wouldn't be a very advanced society if all we did was go by if it worked on others or not...

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:I think roket made a bad choice putting drugs in here....cause it in no way helps bring the country back.

Cause the drugs is nothing big or wont even do much to help out right now.

if your going to say that then at least retort why you feel that, how do you figure all the things above wouldn't help, how do you figure that a "drug" that does less then alcohol and has less addictive personalities then Alcohol, Nicotine OR Caffeine should be illegalized for recreational?

Unless your talking about the Medical in which case would be even sillier then the above because Medicinal Marijuana is more effective then many neausia drugs, less addictive then ALL painkillers, can be cultivated and regulated by OUR govt. instead of having over seas ship it all in?

please if you really think it should be illegal please explain why bro...

Guild I'll edit this and reply to yours in a sec with "evidence" and an answer to your "crime" question

It does nothing to bring our country back. Please read what i said in the post i made that you quoted and now im quoting.

In the end, it does go good to legalize it right now(if it even will). Sure, if you legalize it and tax it...but you know what.....it doesnt do nothing to make America better. That is why i said, you made a bad choice in putting it in this kind of topic.

how does it not make it better? as a hole it has potential to CURE CANCER, it almost ALWAYS stops depression, allows cancer patients to eat again it stops many personality disorders other then depression such as anger, schizophrenia, paranoia, OCD and many others and thats just the medicinal

money... MONEY... MONEY... I don't think your understanding the boost in our economy it promises, it provides jobs and cleaner burning gas?

THOSE ALL help our country mate?

Oh I am...but you want to know a little history lesson.

You want to know when the last cure for a diease was made??? Over 50 years ago, which was for polio.

Money, money money, is what keeps medical companies getting richer and richer. What do you think will happen to them, once a cure for certain dieases are made? You got it right, they wont be making much money for "trying" to find the cure.

If you dont understand this, then im sorry.


And for the boost, Yes it will boost it, but not no where near enough to make our country better. hell its not even enough to pay for 1 days interests for our over 14tril debt.

a company can't own Marijuana its to widley available so the cure would be cheap and widely available to the public, and 1day of interest? maybe not but it would stop 1day of more debt as well so maybe it doesn't stop the problem but it's 1 of the many steps needed to improve it... and because it's been 50 years since the last cure means nothing Rudy... it can be tomorrow with Technologies we have and research on Marijuana is restricted so it would be a whole new plant and chemical to explore (now mind you one that already has a huge backround for curing and helping with disseases)

a company can own it , thin about it the farmers grow it and a company buys it from them, and sells it on, creating rich company and rich farmers simples

Guild wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:I think roket made a bad choice putting drugs in here....cause it in no way helps bring the country back.

Cause the drugs is nothing big or wont even do much to help out right now.

if your going to say that then at least retort why you feel that, how do you figure all the things above wouldn't help, how do you figure that a "drug" that does less then alcohol and has less addictive personalities then Alcohol, Nicotine OR Caffeine should be illegalized for recreational?

Unless your talking about the Medical in which case would be even sillier then the above because Medicinal Marijuana is more effective then many neausia drugs, less addictive then ALL painkillers, can be cultivated and regulated by OUR govt. instead of having over seas ship it all in?

please if you really think it should be illegal please explain why bro...

Guild I'll edit this and reply to yours in a sec with "evidence" and an answer to your "crime" question

It does nothing to bring our country back. Please read what i said in the post i made that you quoted and now im quoting.

In the end, it does go good to legalize it right now(if it even will). Sure, if you legalize it and tax it...but you know what.....it doesnt do nothing to make America better. That is why i said, you made a bad choice in putting it in this kind of topic.

how does it not make it better? as a hole it has potential to CURE CANCER, it almost ALWAYS stops depression, allows cancer patients to eat again it stops many personality disorders other then depression such as anger, schizophrenia, paranoia, OCD and many others and thats just the medicinal

money... MONEY... MONEY... I don't think your understanding the boost in our economy it promises, it provides jobs and cleaner burning gas?

THOSE ALL help our country mate?

Oh I am...but you want to know a little history lesson.

You want to know when the last cure for a diease was made??? Over 50 years ago, which was for polio.

Money, money money, is what keeps medical companies getting richer and richer. What do you think will happen to them, once a cure for certain dieases are made? You got it right, they wont be making much money for "trying" to find the cure.

If you dont understand this, then im sorry.


And for the boost, Yes it will boost it, but not no where near enough to make our country better. hell its not even enough to pay for 1 days interests for our over 14tril debt.

a company can't own Marijuana its to widley available so the cure would be cheap and widely available to the public, and 1day of interest? maybe not but it would stop 1day of more debt as well so maybe it doesn't stop the problem but it's 1 of the many steps needed to improve it... and because it's been 50 years since the last cure means nothing Rudy... it can be tomorrow with Technologies we have and research on Marijuana is restricted so it would be a whole new plant and chemical to explore (now mind you one that already has a huge backround for curing and helping with disseases)

a company can own it , thin about it the farmers grow it and a company buys it from them, and sells it on, creating rich company and rich farmers simples

key word it creating... it's creating job opertunities, medicinal advancments, and many other things... creating I like that Guild good one

RoKeT wrote:
key word it creating... it's creating job opertunities, medicinal advancments, and many other things... creating I like that Guild good one

haha also CREATING addicts, junkies, crime.... the list goes on

and with you the ambassador for it ........ ill sleep safe in the knowledge it wont be happening any time soon lmao

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

RoKeT wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:I think roket made a bad choice putting drugs in here....cause it in no way helps bring the country back.

Cause the drugs is nothing big or wont even do much to help out right now.

if your going to say that then at least retort why you feel that, how do you figure all the things above wouldn't help, how do you figure that a "drug" that does less then alcohol and has less addictive personalities then Alcohol, Nicotine OR Caffeine should be illegalized for recreational?

Unless your talking about the Medical in which case would be even sillier then the above because Medicinal Marijuana is more effective then many neausia drugs, less addictive then ALL painkillers, can be cultivated and regulated by OUR govt. instead of having over seas ship it all in?

please if you really think it should be illegal please explain why bro...

Guild I'll edit this and reply to yours in a sec with "evidence" and an answer to your "crime" question

It does nothing to bring our country back. Please read what i said in the post i made that you quoted and now im quoting.

In the end, it does go good to legalize it right now(if it even will). Sure, if you legalize it and tax it...but you know what.....it doesnt do nothing to make America better. That is why i said, you made a bad choice in putting it in this kind of topic.

how does it not make it better? as a hole it has potential to CURE CANCER, it almost ALWAYS stops depression, allows cancer patients to eat again it stops many personality disorders other then depression such as anger, schizophrenia, paranoia, OCD and many others and thats just the medicinal

money... MONEY... MONEY... I don't think your understanding the boost in our economy it promises, it provides jobs and cleaner burning gas?

THOSE ALL help our country mate?

Oh I am...but you want to know a little history lesson.

You want to know when the last cure for a diease was made??? Over 50 years ago, which was for polio.

Money, money money, is what keeps medical companies getting richer and richer. What do you think will happen to them, once a cure for certain dieases are made? You got it right, they wont be making much money for "trying" to find the cure.

If you dont understand this, then im sorry.


And for the boost, Yes it will boost it, but not no where near enough to make our country better. hell its not even enough to pay for 1 days interests for our over 14tril debt.

a company can't own Marijuana its to widley available so the cure would be cheap and widely available to the public, and 1day of interest? maybe not but it would stop 1day of more debt as well so maybe it doesn't stop the problem but it's 1 of the many steps needed to improve it... and because it's been 50 years since the last cure means nothing Rudy... it can be tomorrow with Technologies we have and research on Marijuana is restricted so it would be a whole new plant and chemical to explore (now mind you one that already has a huge backround for curing and helping with disseases)

All drugs go through the FDA, in order to make these cures you are talking about, companies will have there own. Once they find a cure, they wont be telling everyone the formula for it.

The last cure has everything to do with it, they made lots of money on finding a cure for polio. Once the cure was known, they didnt make any more money.

It will not stop one more day of debt, thats what you dont understand. You pay interest before you stay paying the debt. Which means, the higher the debt the higher the interest. Which means that in no time, the legalization of weed does no good in the end.

If you were smart enough to know this, you wouldnt be trying to argue with me on this.

Guild wrote:

RoKeT wrote:
key word it creating... it's creating job opertunities, medicinal advancments, and many other things... creating I like that Guild good one

haha also CREATING addicts, junkies, crime.... the list goes on

and with you the ambassador for it ........ ill sleep safe in the knowledge it wont be happening any time soon lmao

you can't create addicts, a junkie is not a pot head, and crime would be reduced...

with people like you against it.... its no wonder its still illegal, your presented with facts, a descent argument and you fling **Filtered**, just like Uni just did... you can't have a legitimate reason as to why it should be illegalized, you have no evidence of your own so you sling poo... well good job Guild you got me... Darnit

and Rudy we'll have to agree to disagree because I don't see how your not seeing a plus on the income and I don't see how your missing the income boost or I'm missing yours either way I'm sorry I don't know how to make you see my point and your right I don't see yours...

one more math problme for you Rudy and i'll be out of your hair if you still don't understand

5million americans admit to smoking marijuana daily
5million times 10USD (thats how much a gram is... which if you smoke pot... you know a gram isn't much to say) thats 50million dollars daily... now you take the ones who smoke it more heavily (lets be fair we have drunks and heavy smokers... so you can't count them out it's only fair for hte pot heads too) we'll say 30 bucks for an average "pot head" would be about right daily...

so if you take the 50mill minimum estimate daily and a higher of 150mill per day (again thats a high end estimate)

365*50= 18,250,000,000
365*150= 54,750,000,000

no it doesn't stop the debt... but for it being only 1 product thats 1 hell of a boost to the economy

RoKeT wrote:

Guild wrote:

RoKeT wrote:
key word it creating... it's creating job opertunities, medicinal advancments, and many other things... creating I like that Guild good one

haha also CREATING addicts, junkies, crime.... the list goes on

and with you the ambassador for it ........ ill sleep safe in the knowledge it wont be happening any time soon lmao

you can't create addicts, a junkie is not a pot head, and crime would be reduced...

with people like you against it.... its no wonder its still illegal, your presented with facts, a descent argument and you fling **Filtered**, just like Uni just did... you can't have a legitimate reason as to why it should be illegalized, you have no evidence of your own so you sling poo... well good job Guild you got me... Darnit

and Rudy we'll have to agree to disagree because I don't see how your not seeing a plus on the income and I don't see how your missing the income boost or I'm missing yours either way I'm sorry I don't know how to make you see my point and your right I don't see yours...

I do see your point. But like I said.....

It would take anyone with a half a brain or at least more than 2 brain cells to know what im talking about......

Removed

you are amazing roket..

also noone seems to want to comment on it , number 7 roket how does that help ?

I edited my last post Rudy to add some math for you

Kit Fox I really don't want to debate you as I've always respected (and feared :p) your abilities to debate but to clarify your clarification... Marijuana and Hemp are not the same plants they are cousin plants and do not share the same chemical compounds

Gay Marriage would help IMO because it would allow us as a nation to feel "free" again, and although that doesn't do anything substantial and you can't record the results I believe the lasting affects would be such as...

More Patriotic pride... lets face it blacks, gays, jews they are all in the same sense... at one time the treating of each group the same as you was looked down upon now all but the gays are socially acceptable, infact we have "martin luther king jr day, black history month", theres no reason to believe in the near future once the debate was finally handeled and dealt with the same would be for gays (of course guild this is just my views it was supposed to be up for debate)

RoKeT wrote:I edited my last post Rudy to add some math for you

Kit Fox I really don't want to debate you as your I've always respected your abilities but to clarify your clarification... Marijuana and Hemp are not the same plants they are cousin plants and do not share the same chemical compounds

Gay Marriage would help IMO because it would allow us as a nation to feel "free" again, and although that doesn't do anything substantial and you can't record the results I believe the lasting affects would be such as...

More Patriotic pride... lets face it blacks, gays, jews they are all in the same sense... at one time the treating of each group the same as you was looked down upon now all but the gays are socially acceptable, infact we have "martin luther king jr day, black history month", theres no reason to believe in the near future once the debate was finally handeled and dealt with the same would be for gays (of course guild this is just my views it was supposed to be up for debate)

awww i was hoping you were against it i am disapointed slightly cos i cant call you silly

bored now ..