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Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:21 am
by Reathe
Rudy Pena wrote:Why would we repay a DRA that your own leader made void 2 weeks before this thread was made. I do believe your leader told our diplomat that it was void as soon as the massing on me for a legit hit by the DRA we had.

Humm, sounds like a fair point, I agree there is no need to repay if no DRA was in effect but I am unsure of the exact timing (around the 26th-28th onwards?). I have a post somwhere I made when I was aware the DRA was voided 48hr previous. This was on the same day an OE member told me there was no DRA when I asked why the hits (hense the post). But this was a few days after I received no replys from requests to repay under the dra but I also had a reply saying "No prob...all hits well within our DRA " from one person in between these events. (see, a bit confusing to work out).

As I am unsure I strike that claim from my little story just to be sure.

Update: I checked, I sent a PM on the 28th last month complaining about 5 hits in 5 days from one OE member, 1 of which was under the DRA so I was being farmed by OE from the 23rd onwards. I did not get repaid when asked, they did not stop farming me. When exactly did the DRA get voided then, just to be exact about it?

Point in case though - If I was aware there was no DRA at the time I would have most likely massed every single person who hit as that is what I like to do. (I did not attack as war was on the way, you know, start date and all, not supposed to hit before ect ect.)

Update2: Lol, I also re-read the emailes to Marshal after my little "ascended arena" incident where I massed peeps on ascended for hitting me in the arena - that was a bit expensive paying all those peeps back but really rofl :smt025

Reathe

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:30 am
by jedi~tank
The dra was void on July 1 2012. And the prelude towar made by etl by this statement replying to my challenge.


I'll tell u what I'll fight u..and the rest of OE can kick the crap out of DDE.


Edit..I paid OE for dra breaches by DDE members, but I was not offered a single naq for any of thiers. ;)

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:42 am
by Rudy Peña
Jedi~Tank wrote:The dra was void on July 1 2012. And the prelude towar made by etl by this statement replying to my challenge.


I'll tell u what I'll fight u..and the rest of OE can kick the crap out of DDE.


Edit..I paid OE for dra breaches by DDE members, but I was not offered a single naq for any of thiers. ;)

I think you got my ID wrong as you never repaid me for the massing a dde member did on me for a legit hit I made..........which was before you made your vendy with etl and him accepting it.

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:47 am
by jedi~tank
If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:52 am
by Rudy Peña
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:57 am
by Commander Vimes
R0B3RT wrote:
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Reathe wrote:Hee, I see lots of discussion on the forum and blame being thrown around, no wonder I rarely visit these parts.

Is it not a moot point how war kicked off anyway? The current situation is simple enough: diplomacy failed and were still in the diplo-massy stage!

I also have no doubt both sides feel justified and have the "your fault" story's to back it up, I even have one myself (for those who care ..... /tumbleweed). I imagine there is truth is both sides but all the FUD seems to get in the way and violence begets violence so here we all are.

My little story :-({|= [spoiler]For me personally, the fault clearly lies with OE but then I would say that lol.

However, for me this started by me being provoked by multiple OE accounts before the war kicked off by farming me often starting about 2 weeks before war was declared.

Considering I personally had never farmed OE before having faugh side by side, I found that OE to suddenly begin farming me a little annoying (to be fair I was more annoyed that I had no targets to mass in ascended as I had little naq out and I enjoy massing hitters in my attack log. OE spoiling my fun curse you! lol).

I sent PMs, I didn't get many replies, certainly nothing I remember other than a few single lines as reply. The dra violations I complained about were not repaid. If anything the farming got worse in the run up to the war declaration.

The inevitable war announcement was made including an official start date which suited me just fine, especially the start date as it gives time for people to prepare so no "why you mass me /cry" emails. However, during the few days before the war start date I was sabbed in main, sabbed in ascended, massed in ascended and had a few people attempting to descend me as well as the farming hits. Some of the attacks were tag teaming and I counted multiple OE accounts making hits, I found this a rather poor show really!

Then we were at war, I have been hitting and killing as soon as I see something interesting so I am happy.

However I am still not seeing much OE action coming my way, after all the talk and hot air, I am not seeing much action. No doubt I am just lucky that the attack forces of OE are just working their way round to my account and I will just be a greasy little spot on the floor once they do.

Until then I shall continue looking for things to kill in OE realms and shall attempt to continue to do so while I find it within my ability to do so.[/spoiler]

Some war stats to pass the time;

Reathe's current K/D ratio is: 6.36 to 1

199,168,105 of OE units killed in action by Reathe.
31,297,587 of Reathe's units lost in action.

136.3 T of OE weapons have been destroyed by Reathe - for those unsure, I work out by (599200 / 5750) * [sabbed points] = rough value
12 T of Reathe's weapons have been destroyed in return (around 20mill so far from memory)

34,960 turns used by Reathe.
606 turns used against Reathe

Reathe has stolen 4 planets
Reathe has lost 5 planets
Note:
Oh no, OE winning the planet war? Have to see what I can do about that! My thanks to Marshal and I forgot the other, ~Deserted Phantom~ I think (like his performance in the war so far lol :smt064) for allowing me to take a dual planet each without contest or defences. They are nicely tucked away now with much bigger stats on them.

Of course I could mention Bob donated quite a few turns to the count (I miss Bob, he replied to my PMs and was funny too and BEAT my kill count the first few days lol) and 22 mill of my losses were my attack supers!

Anyhoo, see ya in game OE

Reathe

Why would we repay a DRA that your own leader made void 2 weeks before this thread was made. I do believe your leader told our diplomat that it was void as soon as the massing on me for a legit hit by the DRA we had.




NOOOOOOOOOO , you'r not serious saying here you didnt start this Rudy ???? you started hittin everybody for fun and 10b ... you sabbed me weaps and took a planet from BEFORE I MADE EVEN 1 HIT ON OE !!!



YOU WANTED A WAR YOU WEND ABOVE AND BEYOND PMN JT HAS TO DO THIS AND DID THAT AND IM HITTIN YA ALL WHEN I WANT, YOU HIT EVERYBODY IN TSD ALIANCE JUST FOR FUN ! YOU WERE WARNED !

Suck it up dude , you wanted it, you got it, and your Aliance is paying the price now !

what ??????' rudy ??? you are a victim now?
ok JT AFTER THE NAP end changed relation in DRA
why DRA?
we fight TL an omega not help
we fight FS omega not


we need talk about tekki ???

and with DRA nobody farmed omega
rudy you started this war with ETL

POOR omega pay now for you :smt028



err do you want to think those two points over rob3rt? not being funny but you may want to think back to the dates they happened etc.... :-k
as for who started what and what happened with dra's i have stayed quiet as i wasn't in either alliance at the time ;)

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:00 pm
by kaboom
Rudy Pena wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.


So now your tellin us you didnt wanted a war and you didnt just hit everybody in DDE knowngly you were starting a war and its al been a big misunderstading what you did and now your sorry ?

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:14 pm
by Rudy Peña
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.


So now your tellin us you didnt wanted a war and you didnt just hit everybody in DDE knowngly you were starting a war and its al been a big misunderstading what you did and now your sorry ?

Nope, its not and Im not sorry.

Ive wanted this war now for 2 years, I just finally found the chance to make it happen.

For years now after being under the terrible yoke of tekki and etl, I finally got my chance to make OE go to war with DDE cause of etl and tekki making give them my naq to make there accounts stronger than any others.


I finally got my payback!!!!
:-$

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:31 pm
by 101
Big up to JT and Kaboomer, i thought you might enjoy that defence:

Super Defenders Lost 64,064,821

*runs off to build a bigger one*

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:43 pm
by kaboom
101 wrote:Big up to JT and Kaboomer, i thought you might enjoy that defence:

Super Defenders Lost 64,064,821

*runs off to build a bigger one*


Damn JT in that fight to, and there i was thinkin it was all me lol

Boss trys to take all the fun :smt050

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:45 pm
by Kjarkur
101 wrote:Big up to JT and Kaboomer, i thought you might enjoy that defence:

Super Defenders Lost 64,064,821

*runs off to build a bigger one*


That's the spirit !

Kudos to you 101 for being a good sport. This is what it's all about!

-KJ

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:47 pm
by kaboom
Rudy Pena wrote:
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.


So now your tellin us you didnt wanted a war and you didnt just hit everybody in DDE knowngly you were starting a war and its al been a big misunderstading what you did and now your sorry ?

Nope, its not and Im not sorry.

Ive wanted this war now for 2 years, I just finally found the chance to make it happen.

For years now after being under the terrible yoke of tekki and etl, I finally got my chance to make OE go to war with DDE cause of etl and tekki making give them my naq to make there accounts stronger than any others.


I finally got my payback!!!!
:-$



Every joke has some truth to it

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:48 pm
by R0B3RT
Rudy Pena wrote:
Ive wanted this war now for 2 years, I just finally found the chance to make it happen.
I finally got my payback!!!!
:-$

now don.t talk about dra is not JT to close nap ;)

we can have war for 2 years :smt028 accept??

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:49 pm
by Rudy Peña
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.


So now your tellin us you didnt wanted a war and you didnt just hit everybody in DDE knowngly you were starting a war and its al been a big misunderstading what you did and now your sorry ?

Nope, its not and Im not sorry.

Ive wanted this war now for 2 years, I just finally found the chance to make it happen.

For years now after being under the terrible yoke of tekki and etl, I finally got my chance to make OE go to war with DDE cause of etl and tekki making give them my naq to make there accounts stronger than any others.


I finally got my payback!!!!
:-$



Every joke has some truth to it

But the question is which is the truth and what is the joke.

Re: The War To End All Wars DDE VS OE

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:54 pm
by kaboom
Rudy Pena wrote:
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
kaboom wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:If you farm Robert, you get massed..message? Don't farm Robert. Use the dra as a tool you tool, what ypu did and does see how close you can get within the guidelines of an agreement without war..well that's not the spirit of any treaty. And you didn't ask nor did an HC approach me about it.

I didn't know 500 bil on a 400 bil def is close...

Nice to know that certain DDE members are exempt from the DRA.

Maybe next time DDE will let people know which people are exempted from the DRA on DDE's side before it is officially made, not weeks or months after.


So now your tellin us you didnt wanted a war and you didnt just hit everybody in DDE knowngly you were starting a war and its al been a big misunderstading what you did and now your sorry ?

Nope, its not and Im not sorry.

Ive wanted this war now for 2 years, I just finally found the chance to make it happen.

For years now after being under the terrible yoke of tekki and etl, I finally got my chance to make OE go to war with DDE cause of etl and tekki making give them my naq to make there accounts stronger than any others.


I finally got my payback!!!!
:-$



Every joke has some truth to it

But the question is which is the truth and what is the joke.


HAHAHAHAAH thats just to easy Rudy , You'r the joke of course :smt050