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J.S ..As a whole the COP are a good bunch of players but want us to quit the game..not fair.

J.S says with his planets:

( He has made some changes in the past 1 or a few planets said: Naq hit for more then 25bil out
...something like that)

Mass you if you farm me
I will mass your account
Cos I have a top 10 strike

...Someone wants his cake and to eat it too.

((wants to farm ..not get massed ( COP is the problem here)..but if you farm him...he will mass you ...sounds like a player some players may not care for))

Yes if the COP is gone ....farming can be worry free.

J.S. ...you want the COP gone ....but not willing to pay the price
..your just going to set on the side lines and hope it happens.

Whether its the GA COP CIA the game will stay the same...players you dont care for.

War is a terrrible beast, that kills the stongest and brave and spits out the weak cowards.
I wish i was here before hand, i always enjoy a good war. Without war, where would Glory be. I remmber the FRA V UTA war, so long ago. This game is based purly on war and i dont now why some people object wars, thats the point of building an army in the first.

pc wrote:J.S ..As a whole the COP are a good bunch of players but want us to quit the game..not fair.

J.S says with his planets:

( He has made some changes in the past 1 or a few planets said: Naq hit for more then 25bil out
...something like that)

Mass you if you farm me
I will mass your account
Cos I have a top 10 strike

...Someone wants his cake and to eat it too.

((wants to farm ..not get massed ( COP is the problem here)..but if you farm him...he will mass you ...sounds like a player some players may not care for))

Yes if the COP is gone ....farming can be worry free.

J.S. ...you want the COP gone ....but not willing to pay the price
..your just going to set on the side lines and hope it happens.

Whether its the GA COP CIA the game will stay the same...players you dont care for.

Well mate as I said before I said that as an extreme!! I highly doubt people would actually walk away although it has happened in other games..

As for my planets.. Well my planet names are becuase of constant farming on me.. I do not ask anyone for help when massing I just do it, I don't report it. I just do it.. Ask ANY EPA member when was the last time I asked them to get somone off my back!! They will probably not be able to tell you becuase I don't ask for help..

I mass people who farm me (unless somone does it before me).. And I mass for others..

Regarding your farming comment.. I know full well that farming will get you massed.. Thats why I have such a low defence.. And not that many spies.. I'm not wasting my time building a 500 odd billion defence just to keep upto 100billion naq safe from farmers.. I aint a stat builder!! And I aint an idiot... No matter how high your defence it can and WILL be destroyed..

As for me sitting on the sidelines "hoping" it will happen.. I know full well it will very likely end up in a stalemate.. With or without my help.. What can I do that the other 300 odd people can't?? Thats right nothing..


Now this is what I consider another trying to get it locked by flaming and trying to get me angry post..

Again I would ask people to stop trying to make me feel guilty for not going into this war, trying to find cracks using every stupid little comment and twist you can find.. Quoting my planets, quoting a post I made a few months ago etc.. I will gladly enter and let ye mass everything if it will shut all of ye flamers up, and we can have an adult debate about this..

Trying to have an adult debate is proving more and more impossible, no wonder people like Wolf359, JUAN and so many others left.. If ye want to be treated like children keep acting like children*!!

* - If you are under 16 then your ok to argue away like a child but when I was that age even 15 I was told I was old enough to show a good example to others.. That being said there is a 14 year old who made a post here that acts more mature then some of the older players

J.S. wrote:

pc wrote:
Again I would ask people to stop trying to make me feel guilty for not going into this war, trying to find cracks using every stupid little comment and twist you can find.. Quoting my planets, quoting a post I made a few months ago etc.. I will gladly enter and let ye mass everything if it will shut all of ye flamers up, and we can have an adult debate about this..

Trying to have an adult debate is proving more and more impossible, no wonder people like Wolf359, JUAN and so many others left.. If ye want to be treated like children keep acting like children*!!

* - If you are under 16 then your ok to argue away like a child but when I was that age even 15 I was told I was old enough to show a good example to others.. That being said there is a 14 year old who made a post here that acts more mature then some of the older players[/b][/i]

Would you believe me if i said that some of the most childish acts were done my grown men, although i do not now you. I can clearly see from what point you are going at, its not your war and you do not have to join it. Let others do it instead, but if you want COP down, your going to get your hands dirty because the only reason those people are fighting out there are to make names of themselves, to make money and overall to enjoy themselves. But i think it might be wise for those that are not powerful enough to challenge the supergiants of stargatewars, all we have to do is get a nice can of beer sit back and relaxe while they annialate each other. In the end, you will get what you want. Thats if your lucky

As far as i see it, and im pissed atm so i aint gonna make a whooper speech or nothing...

But ive quoted a few CIA high ranked members stating that if we fail they will rule..

It appears too me that they just want too replace CoP's rule?

And if that happens? What will you do? Thats 13 alliances fused together for what they believe is the greater good of this game...

Can you all not do the math? Its pathetic how you all seem too think this plan will work..

If this does succeed...

Then alot of the current CoP members will resort too Ascension Benefits or Discomforts on others, as ascension was supposed too be the main server which everyone plans too achieve there greatiest goals in....

Were we misguided by admin?

Main is basically about, who can build the quickest, via raid farm whatever it is, in the end it will only effect your main account if you use it wisely...

Thats the definining link between CoP and CiA, we worked hard for what we were supposed too achieve, the defining moment in this game in which you achieved your power...aka Ascension Power

But too those that run and hide, a much more severe punishment should be dealt, its a disgrace that those whom wish too change SGW can only take place on MAIN, its a joint effort and so both should be shown the same respect as the other...

All those whom contributed too developing there ascended accounts deserve some what a beneficial factor on main should be rightyfully justified, alot of members sacrifice over half to a quater of there army potential into ascension for the beneficial of there ascended account...This game has truelly lost all meaning and im disappointed..

What you set out too be the ultimate server, has been set aside, for your own personal benefit.

You have truelly lost those great players that made this game what it was..

wow that is long...my bad

Corkscrew wrote:wow that is long...my bad

Inspirational though...eh

Corkscrew wrote:wow that is long...my bad

Nah Andy, tis all good, but its a start to what I would like to see!!

@TheoX - When you say I have to get my hands dirty you mean getting massed? I only aked to leave the hive out of it.. I have no fear of being massed I stated so in my last post, and becuase I have a hive tag and if I started massing I know people would say the hive is involved.. So I don't have to spend all my time massing I can spend more time here, taking both sides opinions, TRYING to remain neutral.. It's hard tho when people keep trying to get me on someones side!!

What I am trying to achieve is to actually ask all of SGW if they think that large multi allainces like CoP or even CIA should exist..

Remember CIA exists becuase CoP exists.. There is nothing in the rules saying that 5, 10, 50 allainces can't band together for mutual protection.. But that doesn't make it right!!

CIA soley exists to try take down CoP, win lose or draw, it is a creation of CoP.. And if CIA became the new CoP (damn deja vu) I would lobby to take it down as well...

This game isn't about getting all of your friends and your friends friends and your friends friends friends into a big group and go around telling everyone what to do etc.. It's about trying to have fun, farming massing and the ability to say ok, you massed me I will stop now.. A week later its forgotten about.. Anyone I ever mass I usually leave them be after I do mass them.. I just wish everyone else thought like that..

But I guess the only way for the previous to ever happen would be to remove alliances altogether from the game...

sadly you are correct, the main reason i left the game because aims were met. People asscended and that was no good anymore. People got stronger and left because they were dying of bordem, example would be JUAN, quite frankly he left because of no aim, what do you do when you are nearly inviciable

Corkscrew wrote:wow that is long...my bad

I'll just quote this message, since the other one is long

Yes you are right Corkscrew, taking over main is one thing, while taking over ascension would be a totally different thing, there is no question about who owns ascension and that is CoP.

I "used" to have one of the most powerful non-CoP ascended accounts, highest I was ranked was 18.. Now its around 40.. I really got tired of being raided by DD and Alpha on a weekly basis, they raided me more than I managed to raid on my own..

When this war started I went on vacation, I didn't have much of a choice, get descended or go on vacation.. It sucks but thats life.. I would love to give you guys a run for your money if we were more organized on there, but we're not.

We need to rewind to what got this war started to see where it could definitely go. TL decided they would farm damn near the entire CoP, and then act surprised when we decided to declare war. And while I understand where you're coming from mate, the CoP is a very liberal "entity" if you will, the big focus being to keep our members from being farmed, just as any other alliance would. Despite what many think, we actually do function as separate alliances until something big, such as this war. Other than that, things aren't as constricted as a lot of people like to think. Now, while TL may say they wouldn't form a super alliance, imagine what they would do without an Omega or a DD or DDE to oppose them.

I have been on the other side of the fence, I was for a very long time indeed, so I know both sides of the fence very well. Hell, I even got shocked by the "electric" fence once or twice.

If the CoP wins? Things will continue as they do now. Many thought it was the end when CF was defeated, only to see a much greater alliance rise to face the CoP now.
If the CoP loses? One super power will replace another, and yet again nothing will have changed, and a few of us older players may fade away.
Stalemate? Another super war of course at some point.

I can't speak for other CoP members, but I post on the forums as I always have, I don't come on talking smack, there is no difference except perhaps in my actual game account. JUAN left because there was simply nothing left for him to do. I hope I have addressed some of your points as you see fit, that's just my thought on the issue.

I agree with Anubis the CIA will just become another COP whether it wants to or not

Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
-George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

Øsiris of the Asuran wrote:I agree with Anubis the CIA will just become another COP whether it wants to or not

Actually, it will not be like cop ^^
CIA will disband after the war.

Unlike CoP, CIA is like a LC or Network type thing, lacking unity.
Most jioned for a mutual enemy rather for mutual protection.

Anyways, CoP has had a long history together. They have common rules and established precedents. They are almost 1 large alliance.

But CIA is more like a band. They come together to complete 1 big pupose.




~starry

so doesn't CoP do that?

COP farms dam near everyone not in CoP....i knew that from the very start u cant handle your own heat,..O boo hoo...im glad that extremer and his crew set a path for the game hes pretty much a revolutionary,

and dont give me that crap about raiding rek, and not expecting a war...the way i see it the war already started long before he even created TL

you think that if they do win and have a taste of supreme power that they will all disband. one of them will stay supreme and it will have its training alliances and its allies and a new GA or COP will form maybe not in name but in nature.