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I've never had any reason not to trust the Omegan Empire - in my experience if they say they will not attack you then they won't, or if they will destroy your account, you can be pretty sure they will.

That being said, from Mojo's responses in this thread, it makes me wonder how much value a "no massing" agreement is, when he has his own responses without taking into considerations those of the Omega Empire.....

Nox wrote:damn, here we go again, another discussion about tjp and fuall

just close this thread and lets talk about something else, its getting annoying every thread about this subject

QFT.

Can everyone stop making threads about FUALL and TJP. The trashtalking is boring and pointless.

My personal opinion is that the leaders have agreed on a nap and everyone should respect their leaders. It is not very respectful to trashtalk.

If there is nap there will be no fight, no point in bad mouting each other. If there isnt a nap and people dislike each other so much, things should be settled like real warriors.

My 2 cents,

Good night
/Piraten

This thread is not about TJP and FUALL.

IT's a simple question I use to gague a communities response

I gave examples of my own personal view and asked others to give theirs to show a comparrison.

I"m sure OE is adult enough not to run arond crying "Close this thread it's hurting our feelings"

Please note that the most votes are showing that other players trust OE

Can a mod PLEASE lock this thread?
The way the discussions are made and how the subject was formulated is a way for certain people to stir things and to talk trash about another part of the comunity.

Just when I thought that the forums got clean and enjoyable reading, such despicable threads had to be made. Shame on you!


Thank you.
Have a nice day.

_Magni_ wrote:I've never had any reason not to trust the Omegan Empire - in my experience if they say they will not attack you then they won't, or if they will destroy your account, you can be pretty sure they will.

That being said, from Mojo's responses in this thread, it makes me wonder how much value a "no massing" agreement is, when he has his own responses without taking into considerations those of the Omega Empire.....

blahh wrote:

Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:To answer your question, Hysteria:

Yes, you can.
- They promise to mass you, they will.
- They promise to leave you alone, they will, or are easily contacted to rectify mistakes.
- They promise to wipe you from the face of the earth, they will.


^_^
And if they do attack you, one can learn a lot from just watching.

I d beg to differ on the 3rd point, but its just from personal experience

Other than that on topic, most of my dealings with FUALL have been strait forward, and they have kept their word on most of ocaisions, aside a few hickups like the 2 tokko incidents that were not resloved with their usual "reputation" I cant remember an issue not being solved in apropriate manor atm.

Ok to sum this up. Regardless of any agreements.

IF a member of omega is hit, Your account just lost any protection it might of had. PERIOD!

Now as to FULL NAPs, that means your account is hostage, against you paying back for that hit.

As for " No massing" Naps ( the POINT OF NON AGGRESSION PACTS) ARE NO HITS. So refer to point A.

As for being massed, ceaser, you were about to lose all your planets, just prior to me being informed that you were going to a full Nap.

However if you don't think that we can be trusted than fine, I'll accept your withdraw from your current NAPs with us, and i'll then mass your account.

Now Blahh, this isn't directed towards The Legion, or any of it's core members. They are all respectfull, and follow certain codes of honor. (so there is no need to offer to withdraw your NAP protection).

As for the formation of this thread, it in it's self is near on a disolving of the NAP, so be careful what you wish for you might get it.

Till then we'll be watching.

High Empty wrote:Ok to sum this up. Regardless of any agreements.

IF a member of omega is hit, Your account just lost any protection it might of had. PERIOD!

Now as to FULL NAPs, that means your account is hostage, against you paying back for that hit.

As for " No massing" Naps ( the POINT OF NON AGGRESSION PACTS) ARE NO HITS. So refer to point A.

I was under the impression that the terms for ending the TO/FUALL war were a full NAP for a certain length of time (can't remember exact timing), and a further 30/60 days of no planet stealing or massing - ie: naq hits were fine, but no full massings....

So....are you saying that this agreement was not made in good faith? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick here?

If a pact is made and its a bad one, that doesnt nullify the pact itself...
Or contract for this matter


TLE atm has 3 "lawyers" in its senate...perhaps someone should start "hiring" some lawyers as well...



To simly put: When there is an agreement of no massing for a certain amount of time that means no massing...no buts or ifs...there was time for them while the agreement was being made...
Now TO could have used this law "hole" and start farming omegas asses to XYZ since they cannot mass them for it only retaliate in a similar manner and BAMMING their head against the wall for making a crap like agreement...but i also believe in this case no one was taking advantage of a contract so it was a matter of breaking the contract itself and thats it...



My suggestion, be careful with what you sign...




P.S. If appropriate ppl werent contacted for these "breaches" of a contract than its hard to expect any "justice" being served



Blue

Close this thread it's hurting my feelings

How about we all calm down a bit heh...

The prior TO OE agreement was one full of holes and it caused resntment on both sides for what they percieved as pushing the letter of it... But we`ve moved into the full nap phase now and since it has worked out well in the past for TLE and OE there should be no reason for it not to work out here.

And that means both sides keeping their cool when a random hit does happen. And experience shows something allways happens.

A OE member hit TLE members on main an in ascended just yesterday. Clearly not a "accidental thing" form his side, but do you see us throwing fits guys? Proper chanells are being followed and damages will be repayed in full. Only if these talks fail will we throw a fit + most likely something more since a provocation cant really go unanswered can it.



Lets curbe some egoes here cos tbh if greater interests hadnt been in the picture this nap would never have been signed in the first place. And unless this poll actually merrits serious discussion it wont fail come day 3 lol.

Move allong people.

caesar2 wrote:I agree john. The agreements were broken many times, and few private answeres were more than interesting: "i broke nothing" and similar funny answers, when ppl massed us on ascended.

one alpha member was kicked for massing TO member, i hope he will stay where he is now.

another few are welcome to repay all what was done.

as was told: planet was massed, CoTO member was massed on main, many TO and CoTO were massed, assasinated on ascended.

Were aw8ing OE answer.

a so thats why grimgor is farming DxM?

Blue, certain players that were supposed to be in a position to handle these "Incidents" we contacted and PM's were not responded to.

Threats of massing were made.

Massings were made.

After this thread was started the doors for direct and swift communication were offered.

To be honest it's a bit like a manager saying "My door is always open" but he's always too busy to talk to you

Meth wrote:a so thats why grimgor is farming DxM?

Please feel free to post any breaches on behalf of TO in this thread

Include the date and time of attacks please

I have informed a member of the HC in regards to your complaint and he is looking into it right now

Meth wrote:

caesar2 wrote:I agree john. The agreements were broken many times, and few private answeres were more than interesting: "i broke nothing" and similar funny answers, when ppl massed us on ascended.

one alpha member was kicked for massing TO member, i hope he will stay where he is now.

another few are welcome to repay all what was done.

as was told: planet was massed, CoTO member was massed on main, many TO and CoTO were massed, assasinated on ascended.

Were aw8ing OE answer.

a so thats why grimgor is farming DxM?

we had convo with few DDE members yesterday, all NAP breakings will be repayed.

@the situation... that hole... stated when delta farmed CoTO, we hit back, i was warned one more hit and i will be massed, so i hit on ascended and was massed there. i contacted the player (we already spoke on MSN and all is sorted with mojo).

HE... delta members were contacting me on MSN and telling: i just massed dirtnap, i just killed few assasins of this one, etc.

this is not about OE comand,but OEmembers. thats different. OE HC members are honorable ane we ddnt say hey are bad and we cant trust them, but can OE HC trust theyr members? if they are private massing and they knew we had this agreement?

anyways, mod, lock this thread. now we are in discusion with comand, so this thread is useles atm. all was said on MSN.

heres my msn:mdano@hotmail.com

OE HC's add me please to sort this out.

Well as long as you guys work it out...


We should be enjoying the game...enjoying laughing with our opponents..and not enjoying name slagging and trashtalking alll over...


somewhat something somewhere in this evolution went terribly wrong...





Blue