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Alliance/Race war

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 am
by Lord_of_Night
I got this idea yesterday after reading something about pure race alliances.

Type of Alliance (only with) #########Bonus

Asgard........................... +10%defense, ?
Replicators...................... +10%covert,sab more cheap(turns),
Goa'uld........................... +10%income, a increase % on up
Tauri.............................. +10% strike. more attack turns per turn(not usable to trade)
System Lords................... +20% income, a increase % on up
Ancient........................... +20% defense, ?
Nanotimaster................... +20% covert, sab and spy does't take covert turns
Tollan.............................. +20%strike,more attack turns per turn(not usable to trade)

Ascended Races
Ori +15% strike
Tolah +5% strike and 5% defence
Ajna 5%covert 5%def 5% strike
Indu 10% def

If you're alliance is composed by System lords and the ascended race is Ori you would get +20% income, a increase % on up and +15% strike

This bonuses would not affect rankings, only usable in battle. If you join a pure alliance, you won't be able to leave it an join another for lets say 2 weeks. You could go solo if you want, only joining another alliance wouldn't be possible.
The bonus would only start to work after you reach 10 players.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:50 am
by Mordack
Why do you feel that players should benefit from having monorace alliances?

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:22 am
by Legendary Apophis
Mordack wrote:Why do you feel that players should benefit from having monorace alliances?

Because game used to be that way?

And it's a way to make it be so again?

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:46 am
by Defense-Forcefield
100% agaisnt it

1. def have no use in a real war (for asgard and ancients)
2. unlimited sabb for nanoti ???
3. tauri/tollan will become the best race in wartime
4. make two alliance of goauld/system lord, set them at war without fight and see result : crazy bonuse...

i just saw u wasnt proposing this for wartime but everytime... 110% agaisnt it

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:32 am
by Lore
Defense-Forcefield wrote:100% agaisnt it

1. def have no use in a real war (for asgard and ancients)
2. unlimited sabb for nanoti ???
3. tauri/tollan will become the best race in wartime
4. make two alliance of goauld/system lord, set them at war without fight and see result : crazy bonuse...

i just saw u wasnt proposing this for wartime but everytime... 110% agaisnt it

Exactly, big NO.

and I'm a systemlord who's income would jump 60+ bill a turn, not to mention my UP boost.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:38 am
by dardar
meh idk. if there were more pure race alliances and more ppl willing to go to pure race wars then mabey. but race wars are bye bye. nice idea to try and bring em bak.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:43 pm
by Wolf359
No - for 2 reasons.....

1 - anything made up of many of the same thing is never as good (and therefore shouldn't be rewarded) as something that is made up with many different things, each of which brings a unique talent.

2 - all that will happen is that current alliances/empires will re-organise so that they have different alliances containing only 1 race....

.... using DDE as an example, we'd potnetially see:

Dominium of the Tauri
Dominium of the Asgard
Dominium of the Goa'uld
Dominium of the Replicators
Dominium of the Tollan

....etc, etc.

This might have worked if implemented from the very start, but not now.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:05 pm
by Lord_of_Night
Defense-Forcefield wrote:100% agaisnt it

1. def have no use in a real war (for asgard and ancients)
2. unlimited sabb for nanoti ???
3. tauri/tollan will become the best race in wartime
4. make two alliance of goauld/system lord, set them at war without fight and see result : crazy bonuse...

i just saw u wasnt proposing this for wartime but everytime... 110% agaisnt it


1.If you add another feature besides an increase on def, like being able to have 2 motherships (just an idea)...

2. Perhaps unlimited is too much... what about taking only 2 turn.

3. Have you watched the show/movie? Tauri are the only ones able to fight any race, even the Ori.

Lore wrote:
Defense-Forcefield wrote:100% agaisnt it

1. def have no use in a real war (for asgard and ancients)
2. unlimited sabb for nanoti ???
3. tauri/tollan will become the best race in wartime
4. make two alliance of goauld/system lord, set them at war without fight and see result : crazy bonuse...

i just saw u wasnt proposing this for wartime but everytime... 110% agaisnt it

Exactly, big NO.

and I'm a systemlord who's income would jump 60+ bill a turn, not to mention my UP boost.


4.The income increase perhaps is too much, but the up increase has a point (slaves) - not raw up tho.


Wolf359 wrote:No - for 2 reasons.....

1 - anything made up of many of the same thing is never as good (and therefore shouldn't be rewarded) as something that is made up with many different things, each of which brings a unique talent.

2 - all that will happen is that current alliances/empires will re-organise so that they have different alliances containing only 1 race....

.... using DDE as an example, we'd potnetially see:

Dominium of the Tauri
Dominium of the Asgard
Dominium of the Goa'uld
Dominium of the Replicators
Dominium of the Tollan

....etc, etc.

This might have worked if implemented from the very start, but not now.



Perhaps... but you could make a pure alliance yourself to fight it back.
It would be a big update but it would make this game more fun and similar to the show/movie, as it should be.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:16 am
by Wolf359
But to add bonuses now because some alliances choose, with the key word being 'choose', to be of a singular race is wrong.

Re: Alliance/Race war

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:28 am
by Lord_of_Night
Wolf359 wrote:But to add bonuses now because some alliances choose, with the key word being 'choose', to be of a singular race is wrong.


I think i see your point... normal alliances would be in disadvantage. Perhaps adding some penalties to it. Suppose your alliance is made of System lords and Ori; You would get bonus on def %10 and strike +10 /ancient technology) but loose covert/anti 15% (very known in the universe). What's your opinion about this?

LoN