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Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:22 pm
by Juliette
"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
Let's celebrate the whole day long!
This day marks the establishment, in 1941, of the Liberation Front to fight the German, Italian and Hungarian occupation of Slovenia.
Isn't it great?
Oh, and to our Finnish Friends; Let us remember the Veterans today!
South Africa; Freedom Day!
Let's dance and remember we're free from Apartheid, whether we be black, white or whatever other hues the human skin can take.
All Sierra Leoneans, congratulations on your independence! You fought long and hard for it, and it is well deserved.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:28 pm
by Tyveris
Auriel Aryamehr wrote:"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
Let's celebrate the whole day long!
This day marks the establishment, in 1941, of the Liberation Front to fight the German, Italian and Hungarian occupation of Slovenia.
Isn't it great?
no not great tbh...its over 60 years ago...thats 2 generations....things have moved on since then massively in those countries.....
im all for remembrance day and anything that remembers those who gave their lives at the correct/mistake decision by their goverments to go to any war....but not things that barely seem relevant in this day and age...
the actions of our forefathers arent necessarily something to celebrate after 60 years...
btw just watched flags of our fathers and letters of Iwo Jima back to back....a very good explanation of how war really is just a distortion of the truth no matter what the result
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:40 pm
by Nimras
Auriel Aryamehr wrote:"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
May i remind you of this:
Section 5: Language
a. English
Members of the SGW forums are required to speak in English at all times. Members should also respect that English is not the first language of all users and respect that some people struggle with it more than others.
Consequence:
A polite note from a moderator will be issued requesting the user speak in English. One warning point may be issued for repeat offenders.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:48 pm
by Tyveris
Earendil wrote:Tyveris wrote:the actions of our forefathers aren't necessarily something to celebrate after 60 years...
That sentence is terrible wrong in it's self, if not for my American forefathers there would be no America, and that was well over 3 generations ago, plus a few more...
but this isn't a debate thread now is it? nope, it's a thread of celebration and remembrance. And while i can't say if i had any family involved in the liberation of Slovenia, i can't say that i did not, my Great Grandpa was in Europe during the entire time-span of the situation.
after almost 70 years...who could say?....completly theorectical...and as for america if the original indigenous people didnt get persecuted who can say what kind of country it would be now?
your basing your arguement on your forefathers...hence my first post....your 3rd generation forefather stood up to nazism and facism but is Germany as a country now still living under that doctrine?....no....
as in my first paragraph perhaps being an american maybe your 8th generation father took part in the persecution of the native red indians which was prevelant at that time.....its all relative....all i was saying is regardless of the celebration of 'freedom' in certain conflicts i think that after a period of time it doesnt become relative anymore....only those that sacrificed their lives in either the right or wrong circumstances should be celebrated....
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:57 pm
by Tyveris
Earendil wrote:/talks around the question not related to the topic
@ Nimras, J/W at this, but didn't she 'translate' it in the message, explaining what it stated?
hey your the one that objected to my statement....
'That sentence is terrible wrong in it's self'
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:58 pm
by Nimras
Earendil wrote:/talks around the question not related to the topic
@ Nimras, J/W at this, but didn't she 'translate' it in the message, explaining what it stated?
Even tho she does the rule says that clearly so i just give her a friendly notice
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:05 pm
by killtacular
Earendil wrote:Tyveris wrote:the actions of our forefathers aren't necessarily something to celebrate after 60 years...
That sentence is terrible wrong in it's self, if not for my American forefathers there would be no America, and that was well over 3 generations ago, plus a few more...
but this isn't a debate thread now is it? nope, it's a thread of celebration and remembrance. And while i can't say if i had any family involved in the liberation of Slovenia, i can't say that i did not, my Great Grandpa was in Europe during the entire time-span of the situation.
SO your saying you celebrate what slavery was about?
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:07 pm
by Mordack
Jack wrote:Nimras wrote:Auriel Aryamehr wrote:"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
May i remind you of this:
Section 5: Language
a. English
Members of the SGW forums are required to speak in English at all times. Members should also respect that English is not the first language of all users and respect that some people struggle with it more than others.
Consequence:
A polite note from a moderator will be issued requesting the user speak in English. One warning point may be issued for repeat offenders.
She translated what she said. It's also a name, thus the rules regarding the exclusive use of English do not apply. Let's not forget the disrespect that is, not using the name in it's native language atleast once. IDK abotu others here, but I'd be quite annoyed if say some Frenchie was to "celebrate" America's independence and only speak in French. It'd be a slap in the face.
I'm going to defy Mordack convention and agree strongly with Jack. The copying and pasting of a single phrase in no way equates to 'speaking a foreign language.' You may as well start punishing people for using French expressions, or penalize TLE for their latin mottos. That was a stupid and unecessarily zealous enforcement of the rules.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:41 pm
by ThakalluS
Mordack wrote:Jack wrote:Nimras wrote:Auriel Aryamehr wrote:"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
May i remind you of this:
Section 5: Language
a. English
Members of the SGW forums are required to speak in English at all times. Members should also respect that English is not the first language of all users and respect that some people struggle with it more than others.
Consequence:
A polite note from a moderator will be issued requesting the user speak in English. One warning point may be issued for repeat offenders.
She translated what she said. It's also a name, thus the rules regarding the exclusive use of English do not apply. Let's not forget the disrespect that is, not using the name in it's native language atleast once. IDK abotu others here, but I'd be quite annoyed if say some Frenchie was to "celebrate" America's independence and only speak in French. It'd be a slap in the face.
I'm going to defy Mordack convention and agree strongly with Jack. The copying and pasting of a single phrase in no way equates to 'speaking a foreign language.' You may as well start punishing people for using French expressions, or penalize TLE for their latin mottos. That was a stupid and unecessarily zealous enforcement of the rules.
I second what mordack said.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:54 pm
by geisha
rofl @ that whole you are not allowed to post in another language stuff anyway. While I do understand that the mods would have problems modding in all different kinds of languages, I am still wondering which Nazi came up with the idea that it is not allowed to post a single quote in its original language. That's well beyond ignorant.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:19 pm
by Clarkey
What I don't understand is with the number of MODs that have posted in this thread and that have probably seen this thread that this thread is still sitting in Stargate Wars GENERAL when it has nothing to do with the SGW INGAME activities. This should be moved elsewhere. I get sick of seeing the MODs leave stuff in General when it does not belong there.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:30 pm
by Juliette
clarkey wrote:What I don't understand is with the number of MODs that have posted in this thread and that have probably seen this thread that this thread is still sitting in Stargate Wars GENERAL when it has nothing to do with the SGW INGAME activities. This should be moved elsewhere. I get sick of seeing the MODs leave stuff in General when it does not belong there.
Nimras says:
[It will be] Moved to the correct section [when] its had its 24 hours run i was told we give topics like this
Which is exactly enough for the Slovenian Day of the Uprising against Oppression, which lasts only one day. (Thank ETL I posted shortly after 0:00 local time.)
Given the number of Slovenian players and the importance of this day, I believe it warrants a thread to remember. Historic awareness is important if we are to prevent ourselves from making the same mistakes twice. And national heroism in the face of overwhelming adversity, as remembered on this day, is important for any society to remember.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:32 pm
by Wolf359
Mordack wrote:I'm going to defy Mordack convention and agree strongly with Jack. The copying and pasting of a single phrase in no way equates to 'speaking a foreign language.' You may as well start punishing people for using French expressions, or penalize TLE for their latin mottos. That was a stupid and unecessarily zealous enforcement of the rules.
I quite agree - perhaps he has been a little over-zealous in his application of the rule here (with all the excitement of becoming a supermod and all!), which is meant to prevent whole posts in a language other than English, since this is a predominantly English speaking forum. There's no problem with singular quotes, especially when translations are also provided.clarkey wrote:What I don't understand is with the number of MODs that have posted in this thread and that have probably seen this thread that this thread is still sitting in Stargate Wars GENERAL when it has nothing to do with the SGW INGAME activities. This should be moved elsewhere. I get sick of seeing the MODs leave stuff in General when it does not belong there.
I only just found out myself, but apparently there's an unwritten understanding that threads such as these may be left for 24 hours before moving.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:45 pm
by Mystake
clarkey wrote:What I don't understand is with the number of MODs that have posted in this thread and that have probably seen this thread that this thread is still sitting in Stargate Wars GENERAL when it has nothing to do with the SGW INGAME activities. This should be moved elsewhere. I get sick of seeing the MODs leave stuff in General when it does not belong there.
As much as I agree with you clarkey, use the report function... though I did and Bazsy closed the report with no action.
Re: Day Of Uprising Against Occupation - Celebrations?
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:47 pm
by Mystake
Nimras wrote:Auriel Aryamehr wrote:"dan upora proti okupatorju" (see subject for translation)
May i remind you of this:
Section 5: Language
a. English
Members of the SGW forums are required to speak in English at all times. Members should also respect that English is not the first language of all users and respect that some people struggle with it more than others.
Consequence:
A polite note from a moderator will be issued requesting the user speak in English. One warning point may be issued for repeat offenders.
wait I didn't see this! HA!!!