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these get me so peed off, i see people making a random background, slapping on an image or two and charging over the odds prices for it. A sig should involve blending and be made more personal and have more feeling than that in my opinion.

Your thoughts on this?

Teach those whose skills you deem so far beneath you.
What have you done to prevent this from happening?

Universe wrote:Teach those whose skills you deem so far beneath you.
What have you done to prevent this from happening?

not much, but i make sure i always make my sigs with depth and thought, and if anyone would like lessons, even though i am no pro, feel free to pm me and add me on msn.

SuperSaiyan wrote:if the one buying the sig is happy with it, then why do you care?

its like asking me if selling an orange under the name of an apple would bother me to me a sig is not a sig unless it has some depth and feeling because the sig should represent the holder.

He's wright,or so i think...A sig has to mean something or its just a photo

okay, lets look at this another way, which looks better?


or



guess which one is the one i would call a copy and paste sig(i know it has nothing pasted on, but think of the circle as another image)

also, regarding the pm, you say that you make those sigs because that is all you are asked to do, then use the copy and paste things in your own signature ^o)
you confuse me

just do loads of tutorials they will help u improve loads.

he meant it as in everyone, not directed at any individual

SuperSaiyan wrote:

Skunky wrote:just do loads of tutorials they will help u improve loads.

help who improve?

anyone

cjl wrote:also, regarding the pm, you say that you make those sigs because that is all you are asked to do, then use the copy and paste things in your own signature ^o)

If you do just what your told to, means you're doing the bare minimum and not striving or attempting to better yourself or your work. If you do more than asked, you're more likely to be tipped a lot better, and people are more likely to come back to you, and recommend you to others.

I think that lots of things depends on people that are looking for sigs. If they get satisfied with copy paste work, then such work will be put out of sig makers hands. It is a shop nevertheless. Sounds like, as long as i get paid, it works for me.

I must agree with you cjl, there are plenty of such work around here...

I pesonally have been using tuts in start, when i had will to learn new stuff. Atm, i am busy with everything else to do anymoe and just use what i have learned from those tuts and trying to put something decent together.

I personally don't have a problem with copy and paste sigs. Let's face it, we all started somewhere. How will they ever learn? By being permitted to submit their sigs to contests and to sell them, they have motivation to get better.

I'm fully in favour of them, actually, because as long as people are making these sigs, a few of those people will be motivated to improve. It's what's keeping the GFX community alive, so be nice to them and, in fact, you shouldn't scold them at all. Give them advice, give them tips.

Really they just need to learn hwo to use the program they're workign with, so point these people in the direction of the gradient map function, or the unsharp mask, or whatever they need.


That's my piece.

Low quality sigs get under my skin as well. But I also agree with Murkar.

murkar wrote:Let's face it, we all started somewhere. How will they ever learn? By being permitted to submit their sigs to contests and to sell them, they have motivation to get better.

I'm fully in favour of them, actually, because as long as people are making these sigs, a few of those people will be motivated to improve. It's what's keeping the GFX community alive, so be nice to them and, in fact, you shouldn't scold them at all. Give them advice, give them tips.

Really they just need to learn hwo to use the program they're workign with, so point these people in the direction of the gradient map function, or the unsharp mask, or whatever they need.


That's my piece.

I'm not sure any of you remember my sig shop before I left (well...we won't go there). I went to sGFX, DreamEvilConcepts, CodedFX, iGFX, dA and a host of other places where I learned to make much better sigs.

Here's one of my sigs from about 18 months ago (lol from page 49 of my photobucket). Just to show what I'm tlaking about...




And just for the halibut (get it?) here's another photo from like page 45 I found on my photobucket.

I do agree with Murkar, but if said Artist doesn't strive to improve... they bring down the community as a whole, as far as quality, because they don't challenge the rest of us to improve. Long story short, if the market floods with Copy and Paste work, then the creativity will stagnate...