Something I wanted to Share

[~Les Erebus~]

When I got up this morning I recieved a message from Tokko. It was a link. I never thought that th link would be something so true and so pure. I want to say thank you Tokko for giving me this link. I urge eveyone to go listen to these most beautiful words. Thanks Tokko.

Please everyone give this a view it will be well worth it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42E2fAWM6rA

[zeekomkommer]

realy nicely said, and so true

[Lore]

Absolutely amazing.

[Colos]

Yep!
To all, there is still hope!

Colos

[RepliMagni]

I like how it reverses - very clever gimic.

But that's my personal interpretation - its a gimic. Who here really cares about the environment? Or world poverty? Or endangered species? Or broken homes?

Because if you really, truly, deeply care about them, then you'd be out on the street, petitioning, lobbying, kicking up a stink. Who here lobbied when we went into Iraq? Or about gitmo? Or about the environment? Who here donates all of their disposal income to third world countries? Or helps to provide aid for war stricken countries? I'm not talking about £3 a month charities, I'm talking about actively providing help - go above and beyond a simple and painless direct debit.

You do the only thing that you can do. You look at all the horrors of the world, and you're overwhelmed. You retract from them. Ignore them because you can ignore them. You focus on providing for your own nearest and dearest, and other people in the world are reduced to thoughts provoked occasionally by a gimic on youtube.

Obama created a sense of hope and renewal, but even he can't get people to see beyond American business, etc. This is the problem of nation-states - they create artificial divides, boundaries that we are not willing to overcome. They create a sense of "otherness" about people's suffering, an ability to ignore their pain and sufferings as someone else's problem.

This isn't a criticism of anyone in particular - we all do it. If we didn't, there would be no absolute poverty in the world. A whole plethora of diseases would have been wiped out from the world. It is our defence mechanism for dealing with things that so overwhelm us - we ignore them if we can, hope they go away.

They won't go away unless we make them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. As Nicholas Cage said, this is false. It should be evil prevails.

Can you see any sign of our society willing to do this? Protectionism springing up as relative poverty hits the UK and USA, while in Africa people die because of absolute poverty. Commercialisation become so pervasive that buying a new game means more to us than saving someone's life?

And tommorrow, I will forget I wrote this.....

[gridlock]

that is aweesome i luv it

[semper]

lmao...pathetic...but certainly clever how things were turned round.


This does not belong in this section.

[~Les Erebus~]

Can you see any sign of our society willing to do this? Protectionism springing up as relative poverty hits the UK and USA, while in Africa people die because of absolute poverty. Commercialisation become so pervasive that buying a new game means more to us than saving someones life?

And tomorrow, I will forget I wrote this.....

That is so true. yet i sense something from your post like you have "gave" up on society and people as whole. The thing is when there is world catastrophes " we all come together if not in person in souls. Like when 911 happened I don't think there is a country out there that was not like "WOW". We all feel a since of remorse do we all embrace it of course. Can we all do something about it? Unfortunately i think that answer is NO. I don't think anyone turns a blind eye to hatred, poverty, third world countries. I simply think that it is easier to turn your eye, but don't think that it is because we don't care, I myself can't stand to see it. I want to help, but I don't have the resources to do so. I cry every single time i see a child/family starving, dos that mean I have the ability to change it? NO. So maybe just maybe this person was real about what she wrote, and this was not a gimmick. Just a mere sign of HOPE, PEACE among all nations, religions and people. Yea some countries don't know what it is really like to starve or live in poverty. does this make them a "bad person"? No! it makes them someone who can't relate to the situation. Much like the person who made this video on YouTube. So to answer your question But that's my personal interpretation - its a gimmick.

Who here really cares about the environment? Or world poverty? Or endangered species? Or broken homes?

Simply put anyone with a soul cares, can everyone do something about it? that is the real question some people can't be lobbying donating money and all of that but someone cared enough to notice that video and put it out there as a brilliant piece of words"straight from the heart. Maybe one should ask himself the questions in which he asked the forum?


@ Semper where does this belong and how can you say something so touching is pathetic?

[deni]

touching for some, pathetic for others but definitely moved to "this and that"


Well said, Magni

[RepliMagni]

So you cry everytime someone dies of starvation? Of disease? You must be one depressed person because it happens all over the world, all of the time. No doubt quite a few people will have died before I finish this post, simply because they lack the bare necessities of life.

Simple fact is if people cared then they wouldn't be able to look away. People look away because its easier than confronting what is really going on in the world.

As for your stuff about "bad person" - I never said it makes people bad. Its our way of dealing with events.

I could trundle out quotes about these situations all day:
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.

One person dies of starvation. We sympathise, try to empathise, understand the person's suffering. Millions die of starvation in Africa. How can we possibly come to terms with that? Why do we let it happen? Yet as I sit here typing and you sit there reading, more will have died....

[credadun]

I like how it reverses - very clever gimic.

But that's my personal interpretation - its a gimic. Who here really cares about the environment? Or world poverty? Or endangered species? Or broken homes?

Because if you really, truly, deeply care about them, then you'd be out on the street, petitioning, lobbying, kicking up a stink. Who here lobbied when we went into Iraq? Or about gitmo? Or about the environment? Who here donates all of their disposal income to third world countries? Or helps to provide aid for war stricken countries? I'm not talking about £3 a month charities, I'm talking about actively providing help - go above and beyond a simple and painless direct debit.

You do the only thing that you can do. You look at all the horrors of the world, and you're overwhelmed. You retract from them. Ignore them because you can ignore them. You focus on providing for your own nearest and dearest, and other people in the world are reduced to thoughts provoked occasionally by a gimic on youtube.

Obama created a sense of hope and renewal, but even he can't get people to see beyond American business, etc. This is the problem of nation-states - they create artificial divides, boundaries that we are not willing to overcome. They create a sense of "otherness" about people's suffering, an ability to ignore their pain and sufferings as someone else's problem.

This isn't a criticism of anyone in particular - we all do it. If we didn't, there would be no absolute poverty in the world. A whole plethora of diseases would have been wiped out from the world. It is our defence mechanism for dealing with things that so overwhelm us - we ignore them if we can, hope they go away.

They won't go away unless we make them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. As Nicholas Cage said, this is false. It should be evil prevails.

Can you see any sign of our society willing to do this? Protectionism springing up as relative poverty hits the UK and USA, while in Africa people die because of absolute poverty. Commercialisation become so pervasive that buying a new game means more to us than saving someone's life?

And tommorrow, I will forget I wrote this.....

sorry for the long quote but i have something to say...

i dont want this to sound as a slate on anyone even if it might come across that way. i live in South Africa and have done much traveling and have experienced this poverty you speak of first hand. until you have gone out and seen it, understanding its full extent is not possible. South Africa is one of the strongest of the African countries and yet we have the highest HIV infection count in the world, but no help comes. no help comes from so called 'first world countries', the UN has no power and the import/exploit market continues to suck the continent dry just like during the cold war. obama does not have a care for africa. the biggest import into africa is still weapons from all over the world. but i do not even begin to presume that africa is the only continent to suffer. World poverty has us all by the neck. Zimbabwe isnt the only country being driven into the ground by a mad dictator.

There are more of us out here on the street fighting for the world than you would think. television of the worlds plight is sadly restricted and appeals to viewers through emotive frames showing the stricken that film crews are willing to film. far too few problems are made known to the general public and only those of us who get involved realise their full extent.

right now you might be thinking 'hypocrite' but it is not so. i have dedicated my life to making a difference. i deal with refugees from all over africa on a daily basis, i have helped build houses in the most desolate places, paying for the materials from my own pocket and with donations from people who are willing to give the so called '$3 donation', i have spent the last three years working on my degree in ecology and environmental conservation because i am one of the few privileged enough to attend university. i have worked in clinics in townships in Johannesburg, SA's biggest city, where people live in no more than shacks made of planks of would and sheets of alluminum roof sheeting where medical aid is given for free because people cant afford even the simplest of necessities.

but i dont disagree with all you say... people are not willing to lift a finger to help anyone worse off than them. 'i earned what i have so why should i give it away?' the common excuse of people too pathetic to help anyone but themselves. although this sounds like a total preach i dont care what choice people make. i will keep fighting as long as i live to make a difference, no matter how small. this has nothing to do with good and evil, it has to do with the uncaring nature of people towards someone they have never met. no matter how small a donation a person makes, $3 or less, any effort helps.

slate me as you will as i have no doubt someone will, but no opinion from any person can change my ways. i only wish there were more like us.

[~Les Erebus~]

@Cred,Thanks that is what I was getting at even the most simplest of things like the "3dollar donation" or the poems that touches peoples hearts. IT still helps and it still brings joy. "Joy is a gift given not from thy pokcket but from thy heart"

[*Adamix*]

Great video,... although the video itself will do little. Spread the word, and start changing things, make things happen. Where to start? Start with yourself, that is a big step, and once you've completed that, then you can start doing those extra steps reaching other people. (keeping it kinda short and small, time is a valuable resource I do not possess)

'Tis all I wanted to say

*Adamix*

[~Massin4Christ~]

And man made global warming... right...

[Brdavs]

You tell`em MFC.


It`s all part of the "intelligent design".