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Ascended players may,,,
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schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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And so it was foretold, that in the coming weeks a great light would be shone. He who has been so silent for so long, comes down from atop that great server in the sky to reshape the charred remains of the ascended world.
The day of reckoning is near, and the souls that are left await with bated breath, for what will unfold before us.
The day of reckoning is near, and the souls that are left await with bated breath, for what will unfold before us.
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your not wearing a big sign that reads "The End Is Near" are you?


schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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~Insider Trader~ wrote:The day of reckoning is near, and the souls that are left await with bated breath, for what will unfold before us.
I wonder if bated breath smells good.
Thanks for pointing this out Lore.. though now I feel like Im waiting for a movie to come out that I think will be good but am not sure because there are no previews.
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yay changes
been similar for a while now
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Whatever admin does, it would have to turn the server upside down to make an impact.
The difference between top to bottom is about 1.5 quintillion dmu. You can't simply 'adjust' it a bit and hope to make things better.
Can't wait ofr whats in store
The difference between top to bottom is about 1.5 quintillion dmu. You can't simply 'adjust' it a bit and hope to make things better.
Can't wait ofr whats in store
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Wow. Can't believe I had to read all that spam just to get a change will be coming in a few weeks. Wonder which ideas have tickled Jason's fancy.
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soon find out (or get to an admin meet)
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he would not even give a hint at the meet. I wonder myself, but the 1 remark he did make kinna worried me.
I always felt like the negative effects should be felt and shared equally. If this is the case, then those ascended accounts in the middle of their ascentions and in the middle of the pack in ascended will more then likely benifit the most.
But any movement is good movement i guess. Just glad to see something happening at this point.
<adminHere> but the expression 'breaking eggs to make an omlette' comes in
<adminHere> the people who it really affects ar ethe 'big accounts'
<Caprila> big as in, already done most ascensions? or big as in armysize / other
<adminHere> both
I always felt like the negative effects should be felt and shared equally. If this is the case, then those ascended accounts in the middle of their ascentions and in the middle of the pack in ascended will more then likely benifit the most.
But any movement is good movement i guess. Just glad to see something happening at this point.

schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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Well, if you ascend more, you shouldn't be penalized anymore then others, but if it is more so, then increasing the max number is pointless
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he said that 25 would be the max for a long time.
if that means anything.
if that means anything.

schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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<adminHere> but the expression 'breaking eggs to make an omlette' comes in
<adminHere> the people who it really affects ar ethe 'big accounts'
<Caprila> big as in, already done most ascensions? or big as in armysize / other
<adminHere> both
That smiley face looks evil. Admin must have his redistributive socialist hat on
resist the temptation lolWill beta be opening soon? I'm sure we'd all like to fiddle around and get an idea of the changes before D-day.
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I know the things that I think need changing. I wonder what he thinks is the most out of balance? For me in order of importance would be:
1. Descending enemy (Currently overbalanced in favor of the defender and ridiculously easy to prevent by minimal activity.)
2. Assassins (deal out too much damage for the cost)
3. No bonus for high rank (plenty of incentive for low rank, absolutely none for high rank)
4. People only ascend for the bonus to the main account. The bonus to the ascended account is paltry.
5. Command Star (currently the least useful weapon on ascended)
1. Descending enemy (Currently overbalanced in favor of the defender and ridiculously easy to prevent by minimal activity.)
2. Assassins (deal out too much damage for the cost)
3. No bonus for high rank (plenty of incentive for low rank, absolutely none for high rank)
4. People only ascend for the bonus to the main account. The bonus to the ascended account is paltry.
5. Command Star (currently the least useful weapon on ascended)
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Agree in most/all of those instances
@ Lore, yes, but there is no real point to it, if there is punishment for going further
@ Lore, yes, but there is no real point to it, if there is punishment for going further
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Imma go ahaed and say that rising ascensions to 22 whilst keeping the 1% bonus was a mistake in the first place. Nvm raising it to 25. Pure and simple.
It gives people something to do and cool new names + just enough incentive/reward in the short run but admin apparently didnt give much thought to the long term.
I dont particulary mind personally, I`m working on it, will be done in a few months, still "reasonably soon", thoe obviously not exactly avantgarde lol.
BUT ponder this for a second. 25 ascensions, 14 days cooldwon. It will take a new account 350 days to ascend to level 25. And that level WILL become norm, sooner rahter than later by the looks of the rankings. Those 1% bonuses sure add up lol. One year. Thats one year in the best case scenario. You can easily multiply the number. And thats not even factoring in people will have a years headstart on things like levels and MSs - the latter allready being rojally unbalanced at the top.
Hate to be a doomsayer but this whole "lets ascend more" thing just streanghtens the choke on the game by making it uber newcomer unfriendly. It may cater to the "old guard" but its also making it virtually impossible for said guard to be replaced.
Whatever admin does, I sure hope he looks at how it affects things medium to long term and not just does a temporary patch. Lack of long term vision is the cancer wound of SGW. Soon you`ll be treating a 100% terminal patient if you`re not carefull.
Stop. Look. Think about it. Both you admin and you champions of the "rights of those that put in the effort".
Dont do another "planets mistake" that wreaks havoc to a point that it later needs drastic measures like caps to contian the problem... certainly not just for the sake of a few moths peace and cosmetics.
It gives people something to do and cool new names + just enough incentive/reward in the short run but admin apparently didnt give much thought to the long term.
I dont particulary mind personally, I`m working on it, will be done in a few months, still "reasonably soon", thoe obviously not exactly avantgarde lol.
BUT ponder this for a second. 25 ascensions, 14 days cooldwon. It will take a new account 350 days to ascend to level 25. And that level WILL become norm, sooner rahter than later by the looks of the rankings. Those 1% bonuses sure add up lol. One year. Thats one year in the best case scenario. You can easily multiply the number. And thats not even factoring in people will have a years headstart on things like levels and MSs - the latter allready being rojally unbalanced at the top.
Hate to be a doomsayer but this whole "lets ascend more" thing just streanghtens the choke on the game by making it uber newcomer unfriendly. It may cater to the "old guard" but its also making it virtually impossible for said guard to be replaced.
Whatever admin does, I sure hope he looks at how it affects things medium to long term and not just does a temporary patch. Lack of long term vision is the cancer wound of SGW. Soon you`ll be treating a 100% terminal patient if you`re not carefull.
Stop. Look. Think about it. Both you admin and you champions of the "rights of those that put in the effort".
Dont do another "planets mistake" that wreaks havoc to a point that it later needs drastic measures like caps to contian the problem... certainly not just for the sake of a few moths peace and cosmetics.



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