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Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:47 am
by Juliette
Not according to
www.chick.com.
In this delightful little story, Roman Catholicism is leveled as idolatry and false.
I urge you to understand that this is not
my view, but it gives us food for thought.
Here's the link:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.aspWould love to hear back from you after reading that little comic.

Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:58 am
by Legendary Apophis
I'm curious to know what church they represent

...I didn't read it completly, as the propaganda factor here reached the acceptable limit and it started to seriously annoy me.
Who the hell are they to pretend it's a false religion?

("we are the new ones in the place, the all knowing ones, all what was done before was wrong, because we say so, we are right, all others are wrong!" not really the best thing around)
This religion has been built up since the first council of Nicee in 325 led by Constantine, and even before, origins coming from Ist and IInd centuries where the basics were started. And I don't think they claimed it came all of a sudden completly built up without using references from other cults or religions. In North Africa they used local traditions within practicing of christianism in the beginnings. It's bt logical that it happens. When you claim it doesn't while it did, of course it's a problem.
Another one of those foolish movements who want to stick strictly to the Books and not 'adapt' from it.
To answer the question, of course they are. They are probably the oldest still remaining christian path around (by a matter of one or two hundred years). If they are false, then it's quite worrying for christianism and they should be careful before pretending that.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:10 am
by Hitchkok
i just like the way they use out of context old testament qoutes to "prove" their points.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:46 am
by Legendary Apophis
Indeed...the part where they pretended Jesus would have said that Roman Catholic church is a *filtered* is one of things that turned me mad..yes it's just a comic but the bs reached critical limits.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:08 am
by Hitchkok
the thing i don't get though, is what happened after repenting.
i mean, is it enough to just ask jesus once to save me, and i'm safe?
after all, if he died for all past and future human sins, i can sin all i want as long as i believe in JC?
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:38 pm
by thaltek
heriticks!!!!!
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:48 pm
by Juliette
hitchkok wrote:the thing i don't get though, is what happened after repenting.
i mean, is it enough to just ask jesus once to save me, and i'm safe?
after all, if he died for all past and future human sins, i can sin all i want as long as i believe in JC?
No no.. there's the rule that you have to tell people about Jesus. To do that, you'd have to at least have a semblance of a 'decent' life.
Just read this, and you will see how God will smite you if you don't.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0079/0079_01.asp
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:13 pm
by thaltek

hey leave jesus out of this... i mean cut the guy some slack, he works for minimum wage and works a 16 hour shift at tocobell....... so just leave the poor fellow alone....
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:11 pm
by Kit-Fox
Well you see the point is you can only go to hell if you know about it, this explains why it is important to shoot missionaries on sight

Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:00 am
by Hitchkok
Radiance wrote:hitchkok wrote:the thing i don't get though, is what happened after repenting.
i mean, is it enough to just ask jesus once to save me, and i'm safe?
after all, if he died for all past and future human sins, i can sin all i want as long as i believe in JC?
No no.. there's the rule that you have to tell people about Jesus. To do that, you'd have to at least have a semblance of a 'decent' life.
Just read this, and you will see how God will smite you if you don't.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0079/0079_01.asp
OK, so the punishment for not accepting jesus is having to write bad poetry to all eternity?
but what i mean is
this. nowhere does it say what happened to little nathan in those 40 years.
it just says he accepts Jesus, and that he went to heaven.
Kit-Fox wrote:Well you see the point is you can only go to hell if you know about it, this explains why it is important to shoot missionaries on sight

i literally laughed out loud.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:36 am
by Jack
If Catholicism = Christianity then Judaism = Islam.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:52 pm
by Legendary Apophis
Dr. House wrote:If Catholicism = Christianity then Judaism = Islam.
Oh looks like we finally found someone who believed the propaganda..

Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:26 pm
by Kit-Fox
meh having finally bothered to look at the link in the first post I have to ask are any of you surprised?
I mean come on, pretty much every 'religion' of today has borrowed & subverted those that came before it or from those it had conquered so it should really be not all that shocking or surprising to find that there are lots of interpretations & contradictions. Especially so when considering the catholic church when you think to how it was created & formed into the 'one' church that it is today.
Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:03 pm
by ~[ Greased Gerbil ]~
Legendary Apophis wrote:This religion has been built up since the first council of Nicee in 325 led by Constantine, and even before, origins coming from Ist and IInd centuries where the basics were started.
Actually, every member of the Catholic clergy can be traced, by the laying of hands, directly back to Christ himself. Before the 4th century, the Church operated throughout the Roman Empire as an underground organisation, because Christianity would get your ass killed in those days.
I read about the first 3 or 4 frames of that rubbish, and I have 2 problems. The Vatican was not always a sovereign power. Catholics do not pledge an allegiance to the Vatican. On the contrary, the Church teaches us to honour and obey the just laws of our our nations. This silly cartoon implies that Catholics are all citizens of the Vatican, and that our national allegiances are divided. Not true. It's not like the Pope will declare war on my country, and test my loyalties. We are taught that His Holiness is infallible, but only in matters of faith and doctrine. He commands and leads a faith first, his position as head of state of the Vatican is a token position.
Secondly, I hate it when non-Catholics use the Bible to try to bring Catholics down. The Old Testament is a historical account of the faith of man. History will always have its inconsistencies, you must bear with what you read. The New Testament was written by men who either were or would later become Catholic Bishops (obviously under a different name, but I don't speak Hebrew or Aramaic). The Bible as we know it was compiled by the Catholic Church, from the writings that the Church considered to be most inspired by the Holy Spirit. Using it, and it alone, to govern Christianity is a concept we call Sola Scriptura (Bible Alone). We were taught that if every profound word and act of Christ were placed in the Bible, it would be too long for any man to read. There are things that the Church does, simply because they were a practice handed down to the Apostles, that were simply not written in a text included in the Bible.
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Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:14 pm
by Legendary Apophis
Why do you think they talk rubbish about Roman Catholics?

As I said, it's oldest christian path still alive and it came around centuries before those movements, if not a millenium and centuries..not to mention patheticness of this kind of comment, throwing mud at the roots (roman catholics are the oldest still around christian movement) is one of silliest things I can think of.
Something that built up over centuries and is in the origin of other christian movements (they split from it remember? NOT the other way around), and some fools whose movement is one or few at max few centuries years old comes here and pretends that the oldest movement is false and not christian? Stop kidding me please! It's just making one look extremly silly to throw such bs. Whoever made this comic is a fool.