How much should I be looking for now?

[Setesh]

Hi there. Just came back, some of you may remember me, some of you won't. Basically, my question is this:


How much naq should I hit for to break even on turns? Values have changed drastically since the last time I played this game

[minisaiyan]

i think i remember your avy from when i was a forum watcher...

turns are going for about 700bil/k atm rising quite a lot.

That means to make 300bil profit from each k turns, you would need to get 1tril= 15bil per each 15 turn hit.

If you set war and use 12 turns, this 300bil profit would be made from 12bil hits.

hope i helped a bit

[Kikaz]

Sup mandudez hit for 20b per 12 turns with war declared

Turns cost 750b per 1k.

[Setesh]

Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. Turn just rolled around and I jumped back to rank 650, I think I was at around 100 when I put myself in vacation.


Time to get back in the swing of things

[Setesh]

Sorry for the double post, but what about for raids? Or is that generally inferior now that turns cost so much?

[minisaiyan]

its possible to make more profit, or at least as much now.

I do 1AT hit, if it is over 1300, i set war and using 15ATs raid until it goes below 25k per hit.

[Kikaz]

1.3m UU for 1k turns.


For a profit you need to hit over 20k per hit..

I personally tab about 150 accounts over 2m army, click raid on all of them and attack button. Any that hit for 1,500 per 1 turn on neutral I declare war and raid. (Thats around 35k UU per hit on war)

[Setesh]

Do you raid with 12 turns or 15 once you've determined the target has sufficient UU?

[Juliette]

Raiding 15, farming 12.

And welcome back, Setesh. Good to see you around.

[Setesh]

Good to be back. I see less and less familiar names every time I return. Thank you, all three of you for the input.

[Kikaz]

Yeah 15 turns with raiding, 12 with farming.

Declare war with both.

Farming is more profitable considering UU now costs 500 billion NAQ per 1 mill UU especially if you farm actives... hit 20b plus, 12b plus to break even.

But raiding is a lot faster gain due to the no matter how far into a turn theres always an account with 1m UU out.


If you stop at 27k per 15 turns like me, your guarenteed at least 300k UU profit for every 1k turns you buy but usually get 600-700k if you raid right.

Also there is plenty of accounts with 2m plus UU out it just takes a long time to find.

Again the tabbing everyone over 2m army pages 350-end and 1 hit raid testing them works amazing, then you just go in and raid the ones with 1.5k UU plus per 1 AT test on neutral.

Ctrl + tab changes to next tab with your left hand and right hand is clicking raid, cycle back through and click attack button on all of them.. you dont need to type in turns, it automatically puts in 1 if you dont type anything.


[spoiler]At least thats how I do it..

Military Records and Achievements
AS OF Apr 03, 2010

Attack Mercs Killed (1) 1,510,880
Defence Mercs Killed (20) 267,426
Attack Soldiers Killed(2.5) 0
Defence Soldiers Killed(50) 60,388
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(15) 909,348
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(300) 1,058,043
Spies Killed(100) 31,321
Spy Killers Killed(5) 158,204
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 11,598
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 43,528
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 3,150
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 0
Planets Taken(5000) 2
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 38,467,478,808,590
Untrained Kidnapped(100) 33,764,272
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.1) 10,901,903,993
Attack Turns Used(1) 39,486[/spoiler]

[_Rube_Dragon_]

why hit for 12 vs 15 turns?

[SlimD]

With war set, 12 turns many times gets ALL the NAQ out.

So you save 3 each time.

Good luck and welcome back.

[Juliette]

With war set, 12 turns many times gets ALL the NAQ out.

So you save 3 each time.

Good luck and welcome back.

And so, in 4 hits, you have saved enough turns to make another hit. You're effectively increasing your number of attacks with 20%.

[MaxSterling]

(([Cost of ATs] X 15) X 2 ) + cost of weapon repairs = minimum to hit for on a zero defense ( hence why people say 25b )
The reason why I follow this rule... you hit once and miss once, you still break even on AT cost. Also if you hit every time, you farm enough to either
1.) buy another 1k ATs and keep the other [Cost of ATs] for pure profit
2.) buy 2k ATs and use 1k ATs to farm again and use the other 1k ATs to mass

For raiding, it's more tricky. It's usually more difficult to consistently find a significant number of targets for 2X the cost of ATs. I always look for the
best gains per AT. I do a series of 1AT hits on my war lists. I'll raid anyone that brings back 2k UU per 1AT hit. 1500 UU or less is barely worth the effort
to raid for 5 hits and get back barely any profit. Why dry hump a target for 30k UU/15ATs when you gain more for your ATs with a target that starts at 50k UU/15ATs?