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What is Undescendable
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:24 pm
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
Any rough ideas on what is an undescendable account for you?
most of us are advised that having all top levels over 700 makes us generally undescendable... though obviously some of the topside stats matter more for this purpose than others...

Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:17 am
by stuff of legends
depends on the descender. As long as you have a higher flow ability and channeling then the other personal abilties your pretty much undescendable.
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:32 am
by Dmonix
I'd say around 650-700 and beyond with max natural energy about 100 or so levels ahead so around 750-800 and I don't think you'll be descended too easily
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:24 pm
by stuff of legends
pretty much.
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:02 am
by jamie930
It has to do with your life force recovery rate compared to your life force.
You can only be attacked every four hours and they can only take 1/4 of your max life force per attack.
So if your recovery rate is higher than what you would lose by an attack you are undesendable.
I am not sure on the rules if more than one person in attacking you
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:38 am
by GOLDEN WING
jamie930 wrote:It has to do with your life force recovery rate compared to your life force.
You can only be attacked every four hours and they can only take 1/4 of your max life force per attack.
So if your recovery rate is higher than what you would lose by an attack you are undesendable.
I am not sure on the rules if more than one person in attacking you
it can't be 1/4
i descended someone in 2 attacks

so i dnt think that applies
just have 1.6bil LF or more
100mil-150mil life force recovery
and have that absorption and reflect thing 700-800 and ur fine

Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:23 am
by Angelis~
Its 3 hours/6 turns to do hits after hits. (8 hits a day) and you can take 1/3 the max life force.
If you descended someone in 2 hits someone else had other hits in on that person.
Even if someone has 0 on all their levels so their lf would be 3000 and reserves would be 45000 the max you can hit with is 15000.
On a funny note, I've seen Unknowns with absolutely no work done on their ascended realms... meaning lots of zeros.

Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:01 am
by LegendaryA
Undescendable, even by Colos' TOC, I would say get 750 on all personal levels and LF to 900.

Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:10 am
by Colos
Colos doesn't have a TOC anymore. But yes, those stats would suffice. Actually, a lot less would do it.
Colos
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:15 am
by renegadze
Angelis~ wrote:Its 3 hours/6 turns to do hits after hits. (8 hits a day) and you can take 1/3 the max life force.
If you descended someone in 2 hits someone else had other hits in on that person.
Even if someone has 0 on all their levels so their lf would be 3000 and reserves would be 45000 the max you can hit with is 15000.
On a funny note, I've seen Unknowns with absolutely no work done on their ascended realms... meaning lots of zeros.

Not entirely true
Atleast 2 people have levels so low they can be descended in 1 hit!
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:38 am
by Colos
Normally that's not possible. IF you have experienced such thing, that should relate to two reasons:
Either someone has already hit the target a few times.
Or the target has just come out of descension, and their regeneration rate is sooooo lame that 4-day-long post-descension PPT is not enough to fully regenerate their reserves.
I like the latter one more. I think I did it a few times with Cloud Strife back in the server war. His MNEC was like 700 with all the other skills at 0

Colos
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:47 am
by LegendaryA
Colos wrote:Normally that's not possible. IF you have experienced such thing, that should relate to two reasons:
Either someone has already hit the target a few times.
Or the target has just come out of descension, and their regeneration rate is sooooo lame that 4-day-long post-descension PPT is not enough to fully regenerate their reserves.
I like the latter one more. I think I did it a few times with
Cloud Strife back in the server war. His MNEC was like 700 with all the other skills at 0 
Colos
Lol refilling would take ages with such stats!
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:08 pm
by jamie930
OK so my times were not totally correct, but concept was correct.
Keep your recovery rate at least 1/3 of your max life force and you will be safe. Unless you have 10 people attacking you. Even then I dont think anyone would be safe
Now is the 8 hits a day is total hit on you, or only 8 hits a day from one person
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:15 pm
by GOLDEN WING
jamie930 wrote:OK so my times were not totally correct, but concept was correct.
Keep your recovery rate at least 1/3 of your max life force and you will be safe. Unless you have 10 people attacking you. Even then I dont think anyone would be safe
Now is the 8 hits a day is total hit on you, or only 8 hits a day from one person
8 hits 3h waiting 8x3 =24hours aka 1 day thats the total someone can be hit daily.
Re: What is Undescendable
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:08 pm
by WoofyBear
GOLDEN WING wrote:jamie930 wrote:OK so my times were not totally correct, but concept was correct.
Keep your recovery rate at least 1/3 of your max life force and you will be safe. Unless you have 10 people attacking you. Even then I dont think anyone would be safe
Now is the 8 hits a day is total hit on you, or only 8 hits a day from one person
8 hits 3h waiting 8x3 =24hours aka 1 day thats the total someone can be hit daily.
You can be hit a total of 8 times a day (once every three hours) This can be one person hitting you 8 times or 8 people hitting you once.
Undescendable: The most damage I have taken by anyone was my life force minus 1 regardless of the amount of damage they can inflict. So I believe as long as your Flow and Channeling are high enough for you to regain all your Life Force in 5 truns or less you are undescendable. You can still get raped and have all your planets killed off, but you cant be descended. So I guess if someone dosent want to play but dosent ever want to have their account on vac or descended, just leave everything where it is stat wise except Flow and Channeling.