Soo uhhh about them AT's

[Urahara]

120 a day???? Thats no fun. Alot harder for the little guy to get up and going. It was much better with 3400 a day. So even if you started late you have a chance.

Who cares if you dont use them all? Better to have more AT's then little or none.

Im just saying, would be much better to put atleast 3k AT's a day. Makes it more fun!

[HippyFool]

actually technically having less ATs should stop people getting so far ahead. Also, how is it harder for the 'little guys' when everyone has exactly the same stuff to work with?

Less ATs = higher strategy

[Mikgamer]

I should report your post for making no sense Five, now get back to farming for me lulz.

[Urahara]

actually technically having less ATs should stop people getting so far ahead. Also, how is it harder for the 'little guys' when everyone has exactly the same stuff to work with?

Less ATs = higher strategy

If i was to start late... say a week from now, id have no chance to catch up to the people that started playing when the era just started. Therefore, more AT's the better.

lol lulz, its ok i'll get my 260mill back

[Affirmation]

Not so much the number of ATs but the fact the game has them over-valued so high they are essentially negated in value.

Bascially, it takes about 33-44 turns to farm for enough NAQ (currently at fairly decent farm times when you can farm up to 150-175 Mill per 11 ATs - which is anytime other than when Hippy, HE, or other Farm hogs haven't been on farming... ) to farm enough NAQ to buy 120 ATs. So, you are already at Net 70-80 ATs when you purchase them, which you can then use to farm about 1.1 Bill NAQ.

Which means you buggered around, grabbed nutz and wasted time in the Market farming to buy ATs to gain Net 600 Million NAQ!!

If you had just taken your original 33-44 turns and caught a fairly good farming run you would have made the same Net 500-600 Mill NAQ

AND NEVER FUSSED WITH THE DAILY MARKET AT ALL!!

Right now the Daily market is frakkin useless, other than a time wasting exercise??

Can Admin please make the Daily market useful (other than the obvious we have to wait XX number of days till the Inactive Average NAQ Income levels come up high enough so we can buy Daily Market ATs with only one 11 turn Attack???)

Its such a small request....

[Urahara]

Not so much the number of ATs but the fact the game has them over-valued so high they are essentially negated in value.

Bascially, it takes about 33-44 turns to farm for enough NAQ (currently at fairly decent farm times when you can farm up to 150-175 Mill per 11 ATs - which is anytime other than when Hippy, HE, or other Farm hogs haven't been on farming... ) to farm enough NAQ to buy 120 ATs. So, you are already at Net 70-80 ATs when you purchase them, which you can then use to farm about 1.1 Bill NAQ.

Which means you buggered around, grabbed nutz and wasted time in the Market farming to buy ATs to gain Net 600 Million NAQ!!

If you had just taken your original 33-44 turns and caught a fairly good farming run you would have made the same Net 500-600 Mill NAQ

AND NEVER FUSSED WITH THE DAILY MARKET AT ALL!!

Right now the Daily market is frakkin useless, other than a time wasting exercise??

Can Admin please make the Daily market useful (other than the obvious we have to wait XX number of days till the Inactive Average NAQ Income levels come up high enough so we can buy Daily Market ATs with only one 11 turn Attack???)

Its such a small request....

I agree. This is Quantum.... make it crazy like it always was, not slow and boring. Also players being fed in this AT deprived era will be far more powerful then the legit player.

[Apophis]

The Market Sucks Ass.

[HippyFool]

Not so much the number of ATs but the fact the game has them over-valued so high they are essentially negated in value.

Bascially, it takes about 33-44 turns to farm for enough NAQ (currently at fairly decent farm times when you can farm up to 150-175 Mill per 11 ATs - which is anytime other than when Hippy, HE, or other Farm hogs haven't been on farming... ) to farm enough NAQ to buy 120 ATs. So, you are already at Net 70-80 ATs when you purchase them, which you can then use to farm about 1.1 Bill NAQ.

Which means you buggered around, grabbed nutz and wasted time in the Market farming to buy ATs to gain Net 600 Million NAQ!!

If you had just taken your original 33-44 turns and caught a fairly good farming run you would have made the same Net 500-600 Mill NAQ

AND NEVER FUSSED WITH THE DAILY MARKET AT ALL!!

Right now the Daily market is frakkin useless, other than a time wasting exercise??

Can Admin please make the Daily market useful (other than the obvious we have to wait XX number of days till the Inactive Average NAQ Income levels come up high enough so we can buy Daily Market ATs with only one 11 turn Attack???)

Its such a small request....

Yep and there is the reason for the increased strategy... You will have to buy turns, then wait a few days before you use them so that you can get higher returns. As there is a 2k max (and 2k will actually be alot this wave) we can sit on turns for a few days and still produce some.

Strategy strategy strategy, oh the joys

[Scenester]

Strategy wont be enough to end up good, as stated before the fed ones will become untouchable ... ''no ones untouchable''... ohh yes they are if they are fed a-day what takes one non-fed a week to farm...

[Apogryph]

Strategy wont be enough to end up good, as stated before the fed ones will become untouchable ... ''no ones untouchable''... ohh yes they are if they are fed a-day what takes one non-fed a week to farm...

not really... the fed ones will most likely spend two or three times more naq for the same techs and UP as everyone else... giving you plenty of opportunity to attack them if you were so inclined... there is always a way to take someone down

[Mikgamer]

gotta snipe the feeders duh lulz

[High Empty]

Don't worry about the market and the turns
they will be rebalanced.

The thing is quite simple
with lots of turns the amount of "ticks" that an inactive gets to have is relatively few some waves as few as (3-4). Where as this wave your going to need to wait for the "tick" value to get to (30-40) to be really good. The reason why it's not at (30-40) right now is two fold. First it's still early in the wave, but second there was a MASSIVE infusion relative as everyone got their (1k turns)+( their 240) turns. I would image Monday the farms will be dry as well.

Now with people farming, for lower values such as the people feeding people you have two options, mass the people getting feeded, or steal the naq from the feeder first, as it does take time for them to collect it. Unless they use the trade turns for naq options which i saw used earlier today

04:50 Mercury Rising 660118812885 Xaos 619409540185 1,583,007,917 Naquadah lost 0 0

which is what 240 turns on the market it worth at the moment. Now true this is being fed. The amount of damage inflicted upon the rest of use is minimized as they didn't mass farm the rest of the server to get it.

[ph30nix]

say what you want but for various reasons being fed is going to play a much larger part of this wave then other waves.

but anyways if they play smart will still be hard to snipe if they bank often and just fill up bank before they say to take and coordinate the hit with an instant messanger. or hell fill up bank and come back 10 minutes later.

[Mikgamer]

I got two of them already, one because he is a slow feeder and one by pure chance lulz.

[EnVy!]

now if we get admin to do away with the polarizing option wednesday it will be ok. as for catching feeders... then you open up the option of people saying they catch feeders when in reality its their feeder. but i know how to beat feeders... just need to make sure the SS bonus is removed