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Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:36 am
by renegadze
You need to look at making these more expensive, due to their current cost it just encourages sniping.....people can farm nowing there really isn't a lot you can do to them as even if you sab them they can fully rebuild all weps in a couple of seconds.

I would imagine top income can currently buy 10mil weps a turn

failing to make a change pretty much makes sabbing pointless

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:38 am
by [BoT] Jason
Make Def techs cheaper?

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:42 am
by renegadze
Jason... wrote:Make Def techs cheaper?


well that could work too lol but def techs like all techs are on a sliding scale based on the top tech.....where as weapons cost the same for all so might be a fairer way?

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:11 am
by [BoT] Jason
Make it 25% more effective then then to prevent the sliding scale unfairness of doom...As in RP terms it should be easier to fortify yourself on your home planet than it is to take your whole army to another planet and back...

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:27 pm
by Bernie Sanders
Jason... wrote:As in RP terms it should be easier to fortify yourself on your home planet than it is to take your whole army to another planet and back...


i absolutely love that idea.

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:58 pm
by Feri
I think I'd kinda like to see weapons 10x as expensive.

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:44 pm
by Lithium
same basic mistake.

rising cost bring inflation to the game

some play siting and havin 400m army and can afford fast rebuilding once in a while some others play actively and why tehy shall be affected bu semi actives.

but i see the root of the problem is the income generated which should have been lowered time ago to avoid this blackhole it has created

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:46 pm
by BMMJ13
Feri wrote:I think I'd kinda like to see weapons 10x as expensive.

Making all weapons more expensive will just mean that defenses get smaller as well. Making attack weapons only more expensive, will likely kill any possibility of farming actives. I'd personally like to see a new weapon type, which is 2-5x more powerful than the current best, as well as 2-5x more expensive, for both attack and defense.

While that doesn't fix the original complaint, I don't really see it as one. The farmer can easily afford to build up a strike, yet those who are defending can't do the same and buy a large defense?

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:51 pm
by renegadze
BMMJ13 wrote:
Feri wrote:I think I'd kinda like to see weapons 10x as expensive.

Making all weapons more expensive will just mean that defenses get smaller as well. Making attack weapons only more expensive, will likely kill any possibility of farming actives. I'd personally like to see a new weapon type, which is 2-5x more powerful than the current best, as well as 2-5x more expensive, for both attack and defense.

While that doesn't fix the original complaint, I don't really see it as one. The farmer can easily afford to build up a strike, yet those who are defending can't do the same and buy a large defense?


as has already been pointed out to you previously, building a def and strike are quite different. Build a strike...at worst you lose attack weps from a sab....build a def and you can have it massed + lose weps.

It's potentially a lot more costly to play by building a def then it is to build a strike...especially considering the cost of weapons atm.

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:01 pm
by High Empty
meh does it matter?


The only way to make sure no one attacks you is, to have no income... so untrain miners when your not online or on PPT.

OR build a defense.. 20-30% of your armysize in spies and troops... I mean remember i'm on goal for 1bil UP.. and if i got a bil up why do i care if i lost a few 100mil getting there.

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:22 pm
by BMMJ13
Also, defense is completely killable, but has the added benefit of getting/keeping your income without you being there. Attack only works if you attack people, so you have to work for the income from it.

High Empty is right to a certain extent, if you have too much of an income, you will get farmed. But basically if the cost to build up to take your naq is less than how much you have out, you are likely to get farmed.

Re: Weapons cost

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:42 pm
by renegadze
High Empty wrote:meh does it matter?


The only way to make sure no one attacks you is, to have no income... so untrain miners when your not online or on PPT.

OR build a defense.. 20-30% of your armysize in spies and troops... I mean remember i'm on goal for 1bil UP.. and if i got a bil up why do i care if i lost a few 100mil getting there.


well much life yourself previously, I am online when I'm being hit, I just won't allow me to bank before the hit - then there is sod all you can do to the person who hits you