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Bank transaction cost

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:59 pm
by Juliette
In short, used to be people paid 2% of their bank deposits as transaction costs (the funds would disappear into the great unknown, as is custom with RL banks these days). People ascended, and never had to pay bank transaction costs again.
Newbies do, in fact, pay bank transaction costs.

Wouldn't it add a fun element of consideration to the game to restore the bank transaction costs to their former glory? After all, it's pretty much clicketyclick fun, this game.. wonder if people could handle the game with a little spicier edge. ;)


Fire away! :smt064

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:51 am
by Juliette
Geez Lois, you must be brilliant! :smt019


Anyway, I do think this is a valid idea, and simple, too. :smt064

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:03 pm
by Tekki
And a bank transaction cost makes it spicier?

How?

By taking Naq away? That's hardly spicier, more like silly.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:06 pm
by minisaiyan
either remove it from the newbies, or add it accross the field...

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:12 pm
by Juliette
Tekki wrote:And a bank transaction cost makes it spicier?

How?

By taking Naq away? That's hardly spicier, more like silly.
:smt087 When you put it like that, then yes. :smt090

I figured it would be more interesting if you could not just bank and unbank without a price; right now it's boring.. oh well. Not like this would change much. Just thought it'd be something to bring back, as I recall having to make some 'interesting' moves with the naq and all that.
Then again.. the game has so far only become simpler, gravitating towards a single point-and-click operation.

*glare* Silly.


CJL wrote:either remove it from the newbies, or add it accross the field...
Given the game's gravitation over the past years, that would go towards removing it from the newbies. -_- Oh well, I've had that experience and it was funny. Let others not have it, times change.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:26 pm
by Tekki
You try saving for a 1.6q covert level and losing 32trillion in banking fees.

Then you will come to accept 'silly'.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:37 pm
by Z E R O
Tekki wrote:You try saving for a 1.6q covert level and losing 32trillion in banking fees.

Then you will come to accept 'silly'.


Seems fair to me.

The fact that you're putting 1.6q in to a single stat shows to me that 32T shouldn't be too big of a deal. If you can afford 1.6q, you can afford another 32T on top...

This also seems to even out gameplay too. People are always talking about how the big players get it so easy, while the small non $$ using players have to struggle, well while 2% is the same on everyone, the naq involved is much smaller with players of smaller calibre, thusly making it easy for them to cover losses.

It's a very small change.. a minor detail, but I'd say any little thing can help.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:42 pm
by Juliette
Z E R O wrote:
Tekki wrote:You try saving for a 1.6q covert level and losing 32trillion in banking fees.

Then you will come to accept 'silly'.


Seems fair to me.

The fact that you're putting 1.6q in to a single stat shows to me that 32T shouldn't be too big of a deal. If you can afford 1.6q, you can afford another 32T on top...
*grin* That was my original reasoning as well.. just didn't find the right words at the time.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:13 pm
by Cole
Not a bad idea... :-k
It's always good to add a lil bit of spice in the pizza.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:35 pm
by Tekki
While the percent amount is the same for everyone, I’ve yet to see an ingame reason to bring it back – beyond the desire to make it ‘spicier’. Sorry, that just doesn’t cut it for me. If there is a game reason, so be it, but there are other things that should be focused on before we go for something to suit an individual’s personal desire.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:37 pm
by jedi~tank
CJL wrote:either remove it from the newbies, or add it accross the field...

agree

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:44 pm
by Juliette
@Tekki; You're right, of course.
Jedi~Tank wrote:
CJL wrote:either remove it from the newbies, or add it accross the field...
agree
This sounds like a game reason? :-)

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:45 pm
by Rocky
CJL wrote: remove it from the newbies,.

If anything i think this is a better game suggestion.

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:48 pm
by Cole
Tekki wrote:While the percent amount is the same for everyone, I’ve yet to see an ingame reason to bring it back – beyond the desire to make it ‘spicier’. Sorry, that just doesn’t cut it for me. If there is a game reason, so be it, but there are other things that should be focused on before we go for something to suit an individual’s personal desire.

Let's have an overall look on things.
Past vs Present.

Mothersip:
Rebuild every ascension/just rebuy weapons & shields.
Ascension with big stats:
Rewards in ascended/doesn't change much in ascended, people ascend with minima and they aren't disadvantaged ascension wise
Banking:
Costed to bank/is free to bank for ascended people (who are filled with advantages over unascended)


There doesn't seem to be much ingame challenge in the path of ascension or regular ressources dealing anymore (you don't have to rebuy MS, you don't see difference if you build with minima or monster prior to ascending, and you even have free banking with all blessings/strong weapons/ascended bonuses compared to unascended who don't have the fee anymore).

And unlike the first two examples I gave, bringing back 2% bank fee wouldn't cause a "storm" in the game. And what ZERO said. Would a little bit of spicying create a huge unbalance? To the contrary, it would rebalance with unascended ones. Why should the fee be removed altogether? Aren't there already enough things that have been changed in the path of making things less challenging in the path of gameplay as I pointed out?

Re: Bank transaction cost

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:53 pm
by Tekki
I’ll shoot myself later for suggesting this – what is a more sensible suggestion is to reverse it, ascended beings pay, unascended newbies don’t. Or even if you made it such that for the first year of your accounts age you didn’t pay it. That would better show mercy for the newbies and give them a step up.

-goes to shoot self-

@Cole, yes some of the changes from the past have been silly. The rebuild of MS for example was a great factor in keeping them all equal as was ascension itself. As for the rewards for big ascensions, let's not go there becuase that will lead to ranting about the present state.

But despite all that, there is no reason to change it beyond wanting to change it. If a change is giong to happen it would make MORE sense to do what I suggested above.

Though either way, I would prefer admin to look at some of the other suggestions and implement them over this one. If we have limited Admin time doing stuff, then this is a low priority change.