Malx wrote:Make kids not cancer!
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Clarkey wrote:Yup it's across Europe. Jim's point exactly. Why should non smokers have to go elsewhere. Smokers don't get precedent over others. It's your habbit you chose to do it.
Then don't go to the bar, or go to one that does not allow smoking inside.
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Clarkey wrote:Yup it's across Europe. Jim's point exactly. Why should non smokers have to go elsewhere. Smokers don't get precedent over others. It's your habbit you chose to do it.
Malx wrote:Make kids not cancer!
There was a time when smoking didn't exist, then it came to being and was forced on to those areas.[BoT] Jack wrote:Clarkey wrote:Yup it's across Europe. Jim's point exactly. Why should non smokers have to go elsewhere. Smokers don't get precedent over others. It's your habbit you chose to do it.
Like wise, it is my restaurant, it is my choice whether to be smoker friendly or not.
You talk of people forcing their habits on to others, yet that's exactly what this is doing. You are going to places where people smoke, then whining that it smells or whatever. And demand they change their ways for you. How would you like it if instead of a smoking ban, a law was past that forced everyone to allow smoking and did not allow segregation of smokers and non smokers?
Kit-Fox wrote:Ahh yes, the old 'lets have equality for all' argument transformed in this case to 'lets all have clean air'
except the folks calling for it never stop at an equal balence but instead insist upon forcing their ways & views onto everyone else & it becomes not 'equality for all' but instead 'lets beat them over the head with what we dont approve of'
How would you like it if instead of a smoking ban, a law was past that forced everyone to allow smoking and did not allow segregation of smokers and non smokers?
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Cole wrote:If we the evil non smokers could avoid smoking to let the smokers smoke as they want, maybe we would do so, either way whether we would or not isn't the matter, as we are all forced to smoke.
Malx wrote:Make kids not cancer!
[BoT] Jack wrote:Forced on by who? It's the choice of the business owner whether they will allow smoking or not. Nothing is being forced on anybody. You do not have to go to places that allow smoking and do not have separate ventilation systems.
The only thing being forced is for businesses to take on a policy they may not like by cities and states adopting anti-smoking laws.Cole wrote:If we the evil non smokers could avoid smoking to let the smokers smoke as they want, maybe we would do so, either way whether we would or not isn't the matter, as we are all forced to smoke.
You do not have to patronize those places that allow smoking inside and do not have a separate ventilation system. It is your choice to visit them. If you do not like that a specific place does allow smoking, then complain to the owner/manager and try to get them to change policies. But do not enact laws that take away the rights of others because you do not like them exorcising those rights. And yes, it is the right of the property owner to decide whether to allow smoking or not.
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Nostra wrote:So ... if I dont drive a car, ... could you all please take your verhicles somewhere else ? its bad for my lungs
) isn't something required for many people to go from a place to another. In fact, smoking is quite the unneeded thing and you can perfectly live without doing so (but as people do so, free they are to smoke in the streets where natural air refill exists...or also obviously at their home). You can say same for cars, but I would tell you that many jobs require it. I would agree something must be done with pollution of cars though, but well, it's another debate. You do not have to patronize those places that allow smoking inside and do not have a separate ventilation system. It is your choice to visit them. If you do not like that a specific place does allow smoking, then complain to the owner/manager and try to get them to change policies. But do not enact laws that take away the rights of others because you do not like them exorcising those rights. And yes, it is the right of the property owner to decide whether to allow smoking or not.
this law is stupid seriously ,Those Non smoker CHOOSE to go to those bars/Pubs its never forced.What is a bar without smoke,beers and peanuts? if they can't handle it then they must go to a restaurant and order some expensive wine!!!!
Nope, rather some ban people to come by just because they cannot stand smoke, rather than spend few minutes outside every few hours. 
But yes i do agree on the smoking in the street being banned as I've walked to school a few times and walked past someone smoking and they made my clothes smell like smoke lol its not best to smell like in High School....
Exactly the government has No Right to Force public area's to go Green/Non Smoking.because in fact 60% of this world over 19 is a smoker right now they would just kill business unless they got a smoking area.
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Cole wrote:Nostra wrote:So ... if I dont drive a car, ... could you all please take your verhicles somewhere else ? its bad for my lungs
Smoking unlike driving (I don't drive btw) isn't something required for many people to go from a place to another. In fact, smoking is quite the unneeded thing and you can perfectly live without doing so. You can say same for cars, but I would tell you that many jobs require it. I would agree something must be done with pollution of cars though.
