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Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:14 am
by Clarkey
Ok, so here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=188196 is a debate as to the meaning of the printed wording "Deposit successful. You deposited 42,038,902,686, which took 42,038,902,686 to do."

I'd like the communities opinion on what this wording is actually saying. I started a new thread because the bug thread is not the right place for such a debate.

I believe the statement is meant to be saying what the fee it took to deposit the naq was.

So for example,

Unascended - Deposit successful. You deposited 42,038,902,686, which took 840,778,053 to do.

Ascended - Deposit successful. You deposited 42,038,902,686, which took 0 to do.

Rudy thinks it is saying how much naq you banked, which in my mind is pretty dumb that anyone would state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq. It is obviously trying to say how much fee it cost you to bank that naq.

So I put it to the vote. If you think it means something else please explain. Maybe Jasons bad construction of sentences?

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:17 am
by Rudy Peña
Like I said, you are wrong.

If I go to my bank and deposit 500 bucks, which took 500 bucks to do. I cant go to my bank and deposit 500 bucks which took 0 to do.

You need money in order to deposit. You dont want to admit you are wrong and are too stuck up to say it.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:20 am
by Clarkey
The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:22 am
by Kikaz
It's a former line of code left over from when the game used to tax anything you deposited into your bank..

Goa'uld race didn't have taxes, and after you ascended it didn't have taxes...

It used to say:

"Deposit successful. You deposited 42,038,902,686, which took 4,312,012,953 to do."

Or something along those lines..

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:23 am
by Clarkey
Kikaz wrote:It's a former line of code left over from when the game used to tax anything you deposited into your bank..

Goa'uld race didn't have taxes, and after you ascended it didn't have taxes...

It used to say:

"Deposit successful. You deposited 42,038,902,686, which took 4,312,012,953 to do."

Or something along those lines..
Therefore stating how much tax it took from the deposit to deposit the funds.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:24 am
by Rudy Peña
Clarkey wrote:The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

If I go to a ATM to take out cash, it will tell me the fee. If I accept it will ask me how much money I want.

If I withdraw 500 and the fee is $3.50, then my bank will charge me $503.50.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:29 am
by Kikaz
Rudy Pena wrote:
Clarkey wrote:The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

If I go to a ATM to take out cash, it will tell me the fee. If I accept it will ask me how much money I want.

If I withdraw 500 and the fee is $3.50, then my bank will charge me $503.50.

Well it would on paypal.. or a credit card.

Your bank won't charge you 503.50 for withdrawing $500.00 of your own dollars though...

It would be.

$500.00 Withdrawal
-$3.50 Tax

Since your withdrawing that money it's not disappearing into thin air like your tax, you still have it, it's just not in your bank anymore it's on your person. Until you get robbed or spend it, it's not a negative like the tax..

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:33 am
by Rudy Peña
Kikaz wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Clarkey wrote:The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

If I go to a ATM to take out cash, it will tell me the fee. If I accept it will ask me how much money I want.

If I withdraw 500 and the fee is $3.50, then my bank will charge me $503.50.

Well it would on paypal.. or a credit card.

Your bank won't charge you 503.50 for withdrawing $500.00 of your own dollars though...

It would be.

$500.00 Withdrawal
-$3.50 Tax

Since your withdrawing that money it's not disappearing into thin air like your tax, you still have it, it's just not in your bank anymore it's on your person. Until you get robbed or spend it, it's not a negative like the tax..
I meant if I go to a ATM thats not owned by my bank.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:35 am
by Quina Quen
Rudy is right.

And this whole argument is amusing. :smt023

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:41 am
by Kikaz
Rudy Pena wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Clarkey wrote:The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

If I go to a ATM to take out cash, it will tell me the fee. If I accept it will ask me how much money I want.

If I withdraw 500 and the fee is $3.50, then my bank will charge me $503.50.

Well it would on paypal.. or a credit card.

Your bank won't charge you 503.50 for withdrawing $500.00 of your own dollars though...

It would be.

$500.00 Withdrawal
-$3.50 Tax

Since your withdrawing that money it's not disappearing into thin air like your tax, you still have it, it's just not in your bank anymore it's on your person. Until you get robbed or spend it, it's not a negative like the tax..
I meant if I go to a ATM thats not owned by my bank.

The point remains your not getting charged 503.50. Your getting 500.00 and getting charged 3.50.

The message used to show how much you were taxed only not the total plus tax, when admin took the tax system out, the second number just became a mirror of the first.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:45 am
by Rudy Peña
You are getting charged 503.50. 500 for withdrawing, and the 3.50 for the fee.
Kikaz wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Kikaz wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:
Clarkey wrote:The only way i'm wrong is if Jason has worded it properly.

If I got to a cash machine to withdraw funds and there's a fee of 75p to withdraw funds, then if I withdrew £100 it took 75p to do it. it is the same principal if there is a fee to deposit the funds.

If there was no fee then it would still say it took 0 to do it because it took 0 fee. Why the hell would anyone state how much naq you deposited to deposit that naq?

If I go to a ATM to take out cash, it will tell me the fee. If I accept it will ask me how much money I want.

If I withdraw 500 and the fee is $3.50, then my bank will charge me $503.50.

Well it would on paypal.. or a credit card.

Your bank won't charge you 503.50 for withdrawing $500.00 of your own dollars though...

It would be.

$500.00 Withdrawal
-$3.50 Tax

Since your withdrawing that money it's not disappearing into thin air like your tax, you still have it, it's just not in your bank anymore it's on your person. Until you get robbed or spend it, it's not a negative like the tax..
I meant if I go to a ATM thats not owned by my bank.

The point remains your not getting charged 503.50. Your getting 500.00 and getting charged 3.50.

The message used to show how much you were taxed only not the total plus tax, when admin took the tax system out, the second number just became a mirror of the first.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:49 am
by Juliette
Keep it up guys. This is definitely going in the right direction. :-D

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:53 am
by Kikaz
Rudy Pena wrote:You are getting charged 503.50. 500 for withdrawing, and the 3.50 for the fee.

No your withdrawing 500.00 and charged 3.50 for the fee.

If you got charged 503.50, and say had $1,003.50 in the bank.

500.00 withdrawal
and 503.50 charged for doing it is what your saying...

Your bank account would be zero..

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:58 am
by Clarkey
Rudy Pena wrote:You are getting charged 503.50. 500 for withdrawing, and the 3.50 for the fee.
lmao do you understand the meaning of the word "charged". If you are charged something then you are "paying" that amount. So if you withdraw 500 and it takes 3.50 to do it as a fee then you withdraw 500 but are charged 3.50. You are not charged 503.50 because you are not paying 503.50 you are paying 3.50.

Re: Deposit vote

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:02 pm
by Rudy Peña
Kikaz wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:You are getting charged 503.50. 500 for withdrawing, and the 3.50 for the fee.

No your withdrawing 500.00 and charged 3.50 for the fee.

If you got charged 503.50, and say had $1,003.50 in the bank.

500.00 withdrawal
and 503.50 charged for doing it is what your saying...

Your bank account would be zero..

No, You are getting charged the fee for 500. so when you look at your transactions. you will see you got charged 503.50.
Clarkey wrote:
Rudy Pena wrote:You are getting charged 503.50. 500 for withdrawing, and the 3.50 for the fee.
lmao do you understand the meaning of the word "charged". If you are charged something then you are "paying" that amount. So if you withdraw 500 and it takes 3.50 to do it as a fee then you withdraw 500 but are charged 3.50. You are not charged 503.50 because you are not paying 503.50 you are paying 3.50.
In most cases, yes you are paying for something, but not in this case.