Game Filter vs Forum Filter

[RepliMagni]

Can we please get these two to filter the same things?

I copied a PM which said:

yer a ****in noob

And got a board warning for masking.

Now if I type the actual word into the forum it comes out with this filter:

yer a **Filtered** noob

In other words, when I actually try to swear I comply to the rules better than when I innocently copy a PM over from the game!

Apparently I should realise the game filter isn't as comprehensively starry for the forum rules. Wouldn't it make more sense to align the filters better?

[Empy]

It would be a game issue so ask Jason to change the filter...

Be more careful when copying I guess, sorry. I highly doubt the forum filter is going to change at all.

[Empy]

I agree, it would be nice if the game filter would display **Filtered** to match the forums.

Some one should bring it up at a meet and see if Jason will do it for the game.

Indeed.

[ƒëmmë]

wow, seriously you get a warning for using just astericks? .. what happened to common sense??

maybe ppl should be issues with warnings for using words that get filtered? after all the intent was there, more than those that try to lessen the actual word with astricks etc..

better still why don't words deemed inappropriate get removed from posts or messages altogether?

[Jack]

Apparently I should realise the game filter isn't as comprehensively starry for the forum rules. Wouldn't it make more sense to align the filters better?

It's completely **Filtered** retarded the way it is now. But ain't nothin gonna to change.

[Clarkey]

wow, seriously you get a warning for using just astericks? .. what happened to common sense??

Was it just asterix's?

[Juliette]

wow, seriously you get a warning for using just astericks? .. what happened to common sense??

Was it just asterix's?

No, it was masking. Unfortunate, a verbal might have sufficed, but those are the rules.



Game and Forum filters cannot be aligned completely. Game has an extensive list of 'function words' that are filtered out (for instance; 'join' -> 'attach'), the aforesaid to prevent hacking and SQL injections and such. There is a suggestion thread asking to make the PM system and filter more reasonable, while maintaining the same level of security on admin's side.
Anyway. I just tested it, and it does filter to "****". (Could have been someone trying to be clever.) That could do with improvement.

Fits with this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=187515&hilit=ingame+pm+system

[Drought]

lol, seems like mysql injection prevention by means of addslashes
mysql_real_escape_string works a lot better


http://shiflett.org/blog/2006/jan/addslashes-versus-mysql-real-escape-string

[Juliette]

lol, seems like mysql injection prevention by means of addslashes
mysql_real_escape_string works a lot better
http://shiflett.org/blog/2006/jan/addslashes-versus-mysql-real-escape-string

Genius! I think that same thing was mentioned before.
viewtopic.php?f=159&t=154989
viewtopic.php?f=160&t=166090

[Zeratul]

Why does this "PG-13" thing pop up again and again and again?
That "rule" was revoked within 48 hours of its implementation, due to it being unsuitable for forum application here...


The types of code used in the two filters varies greatly, so it is nigh on impossible to make them have the same entires... Besides, we can't access the game filter, so we have no idea which entires Jason has there.

[Empy]

It would be a game issue so ask Jason to change the filter...

Be more careful when copying I guess, sorry. I highly doubt the forum filter is going to change at all.

Did Jason not set the "PG-13" rules for the forums, thus should have been applied to the game also?

Just saying...

As Zeratul said, he did, but it was stupid it was revoked very shortly after Jason announced it. There is no even similar to a "PG-13" guideline on these forums at all, and no rule is applied with "PG-13" in mind at all.

[Empy]

You all can read between the lines, yes? What came after is what I was referring to. The sad fact that the rules on the forums are more stringent than in the game is just absurd. It was Jason who enacted the major change to the filter on the forum, yet did nothing to address the game? I'm not here to **Filtered** and whine, just to make a point for when someone does decide to annoy Jason, and bring this subject to life, they can use this against him.

Jason didn't enact any change on the filter.

I'm confused as to what your point is.

[Clarkey]

You all can read between the lines, yes? What came after is what I was referring to. The sad fact that the rules on the forums are more stringent than in the game is just absurd. It was Jason who enacted the major change to the filter on the forum, yet did nothing to address the game? I'm not here to **Filtered** and whine, just to make a point for when someone does decide to annoy Jason, and bring this subject to life, they can use this against him.

No, all we need is for people to know what they are posting on this forum. It's really that simple. Jason does not need to be involved in this just because people whine on the forums about such a stupid situation that is so stupid that it's not even classed as an issue. Jason handed over control of this forum and therefore the filter on this forum is in a class of it's own and has no relation to the game, as the game is still in Jason's control.

From what I can remember the filter on this forum has never changed since i've been around. Words have been removed and added but nothing on the scale of a major change. What did Jason supposedly change that was on a major scale?

[Zeratul]

Beyond the very occasional addition/removal of a word or two, the filter has hardly changed at all.
Since autumn 2009, there have been roughly 100 changes to the filter, 80+ of them to experiment with single words that were repeatedly edited in the filter. about a third of the changes were for words filtered out of silly convenience, not because of breaking rules.
in total, less than 15 words or so have been added or removed in that time. since 2007, there have been 203 changes to the filter. There have not been any major changes to the filter in years, let alone changes to make it considerably more strict.

[Juliette]

Maybe people have simply become more rude and abrasive, leading them to more conflicts with the rules, thus creating the appearance (to them) of a stricter ruleset. Of course, since the rules do not change, it is their own degeneration that is root cause of their misconception and consequent failure to abide by the rules.


tl;dr Rules did not get stricter, people simply became worse forum members.