sabbing = war setting

[EbilCC]

ok basically sabbing will now mean if u sab it gives war setting quicker than the amount of turns you use

for instance you sab 6 times *for example* (this can be adjusted but needs to be low) auto war setting should set it this can be circumvented with teamwork sabbing but if numbers low to say less than 5 it means big accounts with big coverts cant just sab lesser levels

in fairness if possible if say a level 41 sabs a 36 Im thinking first sab automatically war setting sets in why? it balances it out a bit more and to those with high levels cry elsewere


MAIN POINTS
higher covert level than person sabbing = less sabs for war setting

more balances like 37 on a 36 more sabs means take longer for war setting

[muffafuffin]

I feel like that defeats the purpose of a covert ops mission. If the whole idea is that you are "sneaky" to the point of near invisibility it wouldn't make sense to alert them to your presence when you are a bunch of question marks.

However if you get caught or are visible I could see that being an auto war.

[jedi~tank]

I like your idea on that CC but, IF A RECON OR SAB FAILS, it will kick in a war setting. If a recon or sab is successful it should stay the say..as it was a successful covert ops mission.

[RepliMagni]

I feel like that defeats the purpose of a covert ops mission. If the whole idea is that you are "sneaky" to the point of near invisibility it wouldn't make sense to alert them to your presence when you are a bunch of question marks.

However if you get caught or are visible I could see that being an auto war.

You can take the comparison too far - afterall, I think the enemy would notice 100mil spies running around their encampment sabotaging things

It would be interesting to add in a quicker war setting depending on comparative coverts though...would stop a c.41 completely sabbing out someone's def if it means an autowar setting...

[EbilCC]

thats what i mean repli Im looking to bring some balance as well i have for instance built except for the past 3. or 4 days one trillion plus defence and instead of being properly massed 99 percent of the war Im in its been sab and its a war game theres no skill in just sabbing i mean its a one trill defence its not like 20 trill were sabbing is perhaps the way to start off

[Sarevok]

Sounds good to me what JT said, but slightly changed.

I don't think spying on someone should automatically generate a war setting, but a few failed spys should definatly do something to the "hits you can make before war" counter.

A failed sabotage should be automatic war. Successful shouldn't make a difference, as you don't know who did it.
With the chance you see who did it, if that happens, perhaps it should go to war, even if its successful, I mean, blowing someone's stuff up is usually a sign of war

[Sol]

How about a failed attack on a defence makes a war setting as well since it's practically synonymous with a failed sab....

[Sarevok]

Your right. Nothing should be considered an act of war. We should all just set piece and be on our merry way.

[Sol]

If only, however there is no reason it shouldn't, it makes sense, but you can't just let one thing happen when the same event occurs in the same situation just differently worded. The only reason it's mentioned for sabotage is, well, quite obvious. It's still highly one sided anyway, it will only practically help people that are in war, that are then wanting to participate in said war, and it will only help them when the enemy has no ppt (5 bucks says they will jump to ppt when the war setting is gained on an account that could actually hurt them) and they would need to have a moderately attackable defence that won't cripple your account if you took it on, otherwise you wouldn't even bother to mass it. If some big account strips another account via sab and gets a war setting in what 6 hits? So what, as if they would bother retaliating. Knowing them they would have a high covert to keep them covered and some form of a defence (whether big or small), with a MS that has just been injected with roids, and the pilot with speed (straight into their eye ball I might add), by admin J. What's worse is it's relative, c 36 will have a 'big account' compared to a c 34 , c40 to a c37 etc.
Then again people will work out the calculation in a few secs, and sab to the border of the war setting and then stop (getting a friend to finish the job or something).
It's effectively useless, albeit a decent idea.
If you want to make it slightly more effective just block all sabs to 3 covert levels lower and call it divine ascended intervention.

[EbilCC]

well sol if u think then that

i suggest this

like the 5 times ascended rule for army size people cant sab you if there 3 times higher covert levels than you

[Field Marshall]

well sol if u think then that

i suggest this

like the 5 times ascended rule for army size people cant sab you if there 3 times higher covert levels than you

So what's to stop you building a strike with no defence and no covert and attacking me?

[EbilCC]

this is to balance sabbing not about snipers if u see a flaw help me with a idea to solve it

[Sol]

#-o this is to balance sabbing not about snipers if u see a flaw help me with a idea to solve it

Simple, do what 'the cue' said about covert levels:
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=193917&start=60

[Dexter Morgan™]

How about a failed attack on a defence makes a war setting as well since it's practically synonymous with a failed sab....

Sol, i like alot of your ideas, but this is not one of em. Im a level 35 covert. (**Filtered**) I would agree with a failed sab equals war set, but only if the defence is at the right level. Blessings with these insanely amped up MS's equals a failed attack about 30% sumtimes. Why punish a "chance of blessing" with an auto war set?

And as far as evening out what is the point then of people busting their ass to get level 39 and above, if they aren't gonna benifit fully from it. If anything, bring the difference in % from level 36-37 more even, I mean its not even close. I had say 2mil spies on a 36 level with like i dunno 10 tril covert, then when I had level 37, 2mil spies would equal to 30 tril covert power....but 35 to 36 has no where near the difference in power...

[Sol]

How about a failed attack on a defence makes a war setting as well since it's practically synonymous with a failed sab....

Sol, i like alot of your ideas, but this is not one of em. Im a level 35 covert. (**Filtered**) I would agree with a failed sab equals war set, but only if the defence is at the right level. Blessings with these insanely amped up MS's equals a failed attack about 30% sumtimes. Why punish a "chance of blessing" with an auto war set?

It was sarcasm to shine a bit of light on the narrow suggestion, not an actual real suggestion
Also what do you mean by....

And as far as evening out ...