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How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:07 am
by jedi~tank
XXXXXXX just put over 10,000 quad in his/her account

spy on XXXXXXXXXX June 2012 Before:---------------
Ascension Points: 21,510
Personal Attack Power Level: 1100
Personal Attack Skill Level: 1100
Personal Defence Power Level: 920
Personal Defence Skill Level: 920
Personal Constitution: 900
Energy Flow Level: 864
Energy Channeling Level: 860
Energy Repulsion Level: 920
Worldly Charisma: ??? XXXXXXX up graded this one a lot
Maximum Natural Energy Capacity: 1109

Assult: 1650
Defence: 1615
Intelligence: 1500
Assassination: 1625
Production: 1357
Cosmic Exploration Fleets: 458,950

spy on XXXXXXX July 9 2012.. After:----------
Personal Attack Power Level: 1100
Personal Attack Skill Level: 1100
Personal Defence Power Level: 1000
Personal Defence Skill Level: 1000
Personal Constitution: 929
Energy Flow Level: 900
Energy Channeling Level: 900
Energy Repulsion Level: 1000
Worldly Charisma: 1110
Maximum Natural Energy Capacity: 1155

Assult: 1750
Defence: 1750
Intelligence: 1750
Assassination: 1750
Production: 1500
Cosmic Exploration Fleets: 1,050,000

Energy Absorbtion Power from 920 to 1,000 will cost 50,043,267,038,635 Life Force.
Energy Absorbtion Skill from 920 to 1,000 will cost 50,043,267,038,635 Life Force.
Energy Repulsion Strength from 920 to 1,000 will cost 50,043,267,038,635 Life Force.
Personal Constitution from 900 to 929 will cost 9,286,075,207,840 Life Force.
Energy Flow Ability from 864 to 900 will cost 7,230,747,037,288 Life Force.
Energy Channeling Skill from 860 to 900 will cost 7,820,589,916,776 Life Force.
Maximum Natural Energy Capacity from 1,109 to 1,155 will cost 332,157,662,985,530 Life
* Production Capacity from 1,357 to 1,500 will cost 15,652,847,687,356 Life Force.
* Physical Realm Attack Power from 1,650 to 1,750 will cost 126,123,256,803,090 Life Force.
* Physical Realm Defence Strength from 1,615 to 1,750 will cost 151,687,701,436,080 Life Force.
* Physical Realm Covert Capacity from 1,500 to 1,750 will cost 198,742,475,831,040 Life Force.
* Physical Realm Assassin Prowess from 1,625 to 1,750 will cost 145,096,432,031,920 Life Force.
Cosmic Exploratory Fleets from 458,950 to 1,050,000 will cost 62,256,487,110,241 Life Force.
Outward Charisma from 940 to 1,100 will cost 245,466,269,742,130 Life Force.

ToTal Cost Life Force: 1,451,650,346,905,196

Cost in DMU: 14,516,503,469,051,960,000

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:10 am
by ~wolverine~
anythings possible with admin =D

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:10 am
by EbilCC
and from chats with sol it was from one account taken and the account was "reset" by admin jason

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:58 am
by RepliMagni
I don't quite understand the evidence:
Jedi~Tank wrote:XXXXXXX just put over 10,000 quad in his/her account
spy on XXXXXXXXXX June 2012 Before:---------------
spy on XXXXXXX July 9 2012.. After:----------


Just? That was over a month ago? And with, what, a month in between? Why are you only posting it now?

CCexyDCapedCrusader wrote:and from chats with sol it was from one account taken and the account was "reset" by admin jason


What account was attacked? Hate it when cheated naq/DMU gets into the game...

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:31 am
by EbilCC
i dont know but bascially it was reported to sol. sol was told by admin it was an account sent back to normal.

its only being brought up now as we thought the account was reset this happened overnight and today we discover one of a few things

1 that sol was lied to
2 the admin has "forgot" to do it or
3 sol lied to us.

i think sol is the honest one so blame it on admin error or incompetance. i have been emailing sue for around a week getting nowere about issues relating to this exploitation as the account decended people with its boost that would have been obviously harder if not near impossible to do

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:35 am
by doc holliday
How is it possible? (for anonymity sake) Player E player T and player L have a lot of money. Admin is a fan of money. Players E,T, and L pay admin enough money for a special DMU transaction outside of regular game policy

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:37 am
by EbilCC
yes doc that is how its probable but as u said its outside game

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:55 am
by RepliMagni
doc holliday wrote:How is it possible? (for anonymity sake) Player E player T and player L have a lot of money. Admin is a fan of money. Players E,T, and L pay admin enough money for a special DMU transaction outside of regular game policy


Or, is it possible he bought it off other players on the black market? Plenty of players sell bulk DMU - get a few together and it'd be possible...

Of course, that doesn't match with this other story about one account getting reset. But if admin were involved in the way you guys suggest, why not just magic the DMU into ETL's account? Why not actually create a $$$ to DMU black market ingame if that's what he is doing?

Don't know...the whole story just doesn't add up for me...

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:00 am
by ~Deathlok
RepliMagni wrote:
doc holliday wrote:How is it possible? (for anonymity sake) Player E player T and player L have a lot of money. Admin is a fan of money. Players E,T, and L pay admin enough money for a special DMU transaction outside of regular game policy


Or, is it possible he bought it off other players on the black market? Plenty of players sell bulk DMU - get a few together and it'd be possible...

Of course, that doesn't match with this other story about one account getting reset. But if admin were involved in the way you guys suggest, why not just magic the DMU into ETL's account? Why not actually create a $$$ to DMU black market ingame if that's what he is doing?

Don't know...the whole story just doesn't add up for me...

Then do some math :smt019

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:01 am
by Legendary Apophis
RepliMagni wrote:
doc holliday wrote:How is it possible? (for anonymity sake) Player E player T and player L have a lot of money. Admin is a fan of money. Players E,T, and L pay admin enough money for a special DMU transaction outside of regular game policy


Or, is it possible he bought it off other players on the black market? Plenty of players sell bulk DMU - get a few together and it'd be possible...

Of course, that doesn't match with this other story about one account getting reset. But if admin were involved in the way you guys suggest, why not just magic the DMU into ETL's account? Why not actually create a $$$ to DMU black market ingame if that's what he is doing?

Don't know...the whole story just doesn't add up for me...

One thing prevents people to buy DMU from all "sellers" at once, the fact the LF-to-DMU convert ratio is 1/10 of DMU-to-LF ratio, it's utterly impossible to have sellers stock their LF to sell whenever they want.

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:04 am
by doc holliday
Legendary Apophis wrote:
RepliMagni wrote:
doc holliday wrote:How is it possible? (for anonymity sake) Player E player T and player L have a lot of money. Admin is a fan of money. Players E,T, and L pay admin enough money for a special DMU transaction outside of regular game policy


Or, is it possible he bought it off other players on the black market? Plenty of players sell bulk DMU - get a few together and it'd be possible...

Of course, that doesn't match with this other story about one account getting reset. But if admin were involved in the way you guys suggest, why not just magic the DMU into ETL's account? Why not actually create a $$$ to DMU black market ingame if that's what he is doing?

Don't know...the whole story just doesn't add up for me...

One thing prevents people to buy DMU from all "sellers" at once, the fact the LF-to-DMU convert ratio is 1/10 of DMU-to-LF ratio, it's utterly impossible to have sellers stock their LF to sell whenever they want.


Buy def weps then u sell them off. That's how to sell if u wanna

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:06 am
by EbilCC
no it doesnt as sol looked at it and reported it and after few days told me admin had reset the account after it looking dodgey. now we realise not reset to before what it was obviously somthing is going on

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:11 am
by RepliMagni
~Deathlok wrote:Then do some math :smt019


No matter what anyone says, you're definitely JT's daughter ;)

Legendary Apophis wrote:One thing prevents people to buy DMU from all "sellers" at once, the fact the LF-to-DMU convert ratio is 1/10 of DMU-to-LF ratio, it's utterly impossible to have sellers stock their LF to sell whenever they want.


Not following you mate - there are many ways to store DMU: in weps, or just make attack runs when online. If you had dedicated sellers (or lets say an alliance?) online using 2K ATs and you attack their accumulated farming run - it is certainly possible to accumulate that kind of DMU of a period...

Of course, none of this matches up with the cryptic message from SOL - let's wait to see what more he says on the issue rather than speculating further, yes?

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:14 am
by ~Deathlok
RepliMagni wrote:
~Deathlok wrote:Then do some math :smt019


No matter what anyone says, you're definitely JT's daughter ;)

Legendary Apophis wrote:One thing prevents people to buy DMU from all "sellers" at once, the fact the LF-to-DMU convert ratio is 1/10 of DMU-to-LF ratio, it's utterly impossible to have sellers stock their LF to sell whenever they want.


Not following you mate - there are many ways to store DMU: in weps, or just make attack runs when online. If you had dedicated sellers (or lets say an alliance?) online using 2K ATs and you attack their accumulated farming run - it is certainly possible to accumulate that kind of DMU of a period...

Of course, none of this matches up with the cryptic message from SOL - let's wait to see what more he says on the issue rather than speculating further, yes?

:-k You have much to learn about the force. :-D

Re: How is this possible?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:16 am
by RepliMagni
~Deathlok wrote: :-k You have much to learn about the force. :-D


Nah, I've just seen far too many of these ETL/Admin connections over the years to either 1) be surprised or 2) be sure of what is fact and what is fiction.