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vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:34 am
by Gandy 181
i suggest that where it is 24 hour to vac before u ppt

make allience ppt and black market ppt reset the count so u have to wait 24 hours

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:52 am
by jedi~tank
I believe that happens now.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:13 pm
by Gandy 181
nope

u can ppt all the way to vac

ask rodwolf

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:24 pm
by jedi~tank
Gandy 181 wrote:nope

u can ppt all the way to vac

ask rodwolf

I have tried it, whether I used a market or alliance ppt and it wouldnt let me. I dont think we need to change the game again because of 1 player or 1 alliances insistance to mass 1 player do you? This is becoming idiotic.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:52 pm
by Lord-RahL
That was rude...


RahL

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:58 pm
by jedi~tank
SuperSaiyan wrote:BM PPTs, I agree.
They are PPTs you choose to take just the same.

Alliance ones though, not so sure.
Those are not voluntary and could really screw people over. :-k
I thought atm alliance ones had to wear off before going on vac, but not a 24hr limit. Thats as far as I'd go for those. Other PPTs though I do agree (aside from admin given, again if you didn't opt for it it shouldn't count)

I agree, but once again trying to change game mechanics just so I can mass a player is stupid ;)

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:48 pm
by jedi~tank
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:
SuperSaiyan wrote:BM PPTs, I agree.
They are PPTs you choose to take just the same.

Alliance ones though, not so sure.
Those are not voluntary and could really screw people over. :-k
I thought atm alliance ones had to wear off before going on vac, but not a 24hr limit. Thats as far as I'd go for those. Other PPTs though I do agree (aside from admin given, again if you didn't opt for it it shouldn't count)

I agree, but once again trying to change game mechanics just so I can mass a player is stupid ;)


Yes it is, but changing them so they make sense is not so stupid :P
I don't care too much about a motive so long as the end result is something that is beneficial ^_^

I agree..but as I said I do believe this already happens..I can recall trying to vac right after a black market uu purchase and couldnt, as well as trying to vac following an alliance ppt, I had to wait 24hours each time.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:05 pm
by Gandy 181
It's not the class u can buy black market ones alway to vac

And it's not just to mass one person u fool it's a flaw so it should be sorted

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:08 am
by Sphinx42
SuperSaiyan wrote:BM PPTs, I agree.
They are PPTs you choose to take just the same.

Alliance ones though, not so sure.
Those are not voluntary and could really screw people over. :-k
I thought atm alliance ones had to wear off before going on vac, but not a 24hr limit. Thats as far as I'd go for those. Other PPTs though I do agree (aside from admin given, again if you didn't opt for it it shouldn't count)

Agreed. Last time I went on vacation mode (I think it was the last time, but I can't even remember how long ago exactly it was), the alliance PPT was set without any prior warning the day I was supposed to leave town, and I was afraid I'd have to stay out for a few days, with no way of logging in to save my def from slowly being massed away by farmers. It didn't happen, and I was happy it didn't.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:38 pm
by ~phalax~
I totally agree with Gandy, makes 0 sense having a rule for one PPT and not others.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:40 pm
by Sarevok
Wukong wrote:I totally agree with Gandy, makes 0 sense having a rule for one PPT and not others.
Because two of the three you CHOOSE to take. The other is almost FORCED upon you.

So your saying, that if you do NOTHING to other accounts for 23 hours, so you can go on vacation for however long with no internet, and your alliance leader decides to use an alliance PPT for whatever reason, you should then be punished for a choice that wasn't yours? Yeah, makes perfect sense :roll:

Edit: Note, I support preventing vacation for BM trades, and in-game market PPTs, but not the alliance ones.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:38 pm
by ~phalax~
Sarevok wrote:
Wukong wrote:I totally agree with Gandy, makes 0 sense having a rule for one PPT and not others.
Because two of the three you CHOOSE to take. The other is almost FORCED upon you.

So your saying, that if you do NOTHING to other accounts for 23 hours, so you can go on vacation for however long with no internet, and your alliance leader decides to use an alliance PPT for whatever reason, you should then be punished for a choice that wasn't yours? Yeah, makes perfect sense :roll:

Edit: Note, I support preventing vacation for BM trades, and in-game market PPTs, but not the alliance ones.


Not sure why you came across all aggressive but I'll answer in two parts son

1. Are you saying there should be one rule for one thing and not the other? Because that doesn't make sense :roll:

2. Are you being punished for being in a house that your alliance leader chose? It's just part and parcel of being in an alliance bud :roll:

You take the good with the bad, you can't have your way all the time.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:22 pm
by jedi~tank
Wukong wrote:
Sarevok wrote:
Wukong wrote:I totally agree with Gandy, makes 0 sense having a rule for one PPT and not others.
Because two of the three you CHOOSE to take. The other is almost FORCED upon you.

So your saying, that if you do NOTHING to other accounts for 23 hours, so you can go on vacation for however long with no internet, and your alliance leader decides to use an alliance PPT for whatever reason, you should then be punished for a choice that wasn't yours? Yeah, makes perfect sense :roll:

Edit: Note, I support preventing vacation for BM trades, and in-game market PPTs, but not the alliance ones.


Not sure why you came across all aggressive but I'll answer in two parts son

1. Are you saying there should be one rule for one thing and not the other? Because that doesn't make sense :roll:

2. Are you being punished for being in a house that your alliance leader chose? It's just part and parcel of being in an alliance bud :roll:

You take the good with the bad, you can't have your way all the time.

It looks to me like Sarevok laid it out sensibly. His version makes the most sense.

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:27 pm
by Bromas
PPT is PPT, if its a 48H ppt you buy you should not be able to vac within 24hours of it. HOWEVER, there is also no reason to need to spend 10$$ on th egame the day before you go on holiday

Re: vac ppt suggestion

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:38 pm
by Sarevok
Jedi~Tank wrote:
Wukong wrote:
Sarevok wrote:
Wukong wrote:I totally agree with Gandy, makes 0 sense having a rule for one PPT and not others.
Because two of the three you CHOOSE to take. The other is almost FORCED upon you.

So your saying, that if you do NOTHING to other accounts for 23 hours, so you can go on vacation for however long with no internet, and your alliance leader decides to use an alliance PPT for whatever reason, you should then be punished for a choice that wasn't yours? Yeah, makes perfect sense :roll:

Edit: Note, I support preventing vacation for BM trades, and in-game market PPTs, but not the alliance ones.


Not sure why you came across all aggressive but I'll answer in two parts son

1. Are you saying there should be one rule for one thing and not the other? Because that doesn't make sense :roll:

2. Are you being punished for being in a house that your alliance leader chose? It's just part and parcel of being in an alliance bud :roll:

You take the good with the bad, you can't have your way all the time.

It looks to me like Sarevok laid it out sensibly. His version makes the most sense.
Thank you. And in response to Wukong:
1) Yes, I am. Think of it this way, they are two DIFFERENT things. They both put you on to PPT that is correct, but then sabotage and massing both destroy the enemies weapons do they not? But you would consider these different actions right?
With getting PPT, you can use market turns or the black market (attacking), but you can also be put on PPT by the alliance leader (sabotage). Two different actions, same result.

2) When choosing a house MOST (probably not all) alliances would consult with their alliance members before committing to a house. And if a member doesn't like it, they have 5 days to leave anyway. As opposed to alliance wide PPT, which is usually NOT consulted upon by alliance members, and is instead used to defend the alliance, especially when most member maybe offline.

Andy! wrote:PPT is PPT, if its a 48H ppt you buy you should not be able to vac within 24hours of it. HOWEVER, there is also no reason to need to spend 10$$ on th egame the day before you go on holiday
Actually, most/all people agree, BM PPT *AND* Market PPT should affect when you can go on vacation. The issue is alliance PPT, which can be given without warning, and stop people from going on vacation.