Removal of bank limits

[forgive_me]

this i sugested a lot....and practacly these ware in place to stop cheters....but the newest upgread dose that...so there is no need for them...

i propose them to be removed..

if anyone wants to obiect pls give a reason for these limits to remain...

[the Black Knight]

more open money, more active game, lesss dull,

do you want more reasons?

[forgive_me]

more open money, more active game, lesss dull,

do you want more reasons?

that is not a reason...because more naq is generated by the goaulds....but this is not acounted...

there wass enouf naq widowt the limits.....

wath do u think...the game actualy oferd goaulds on a plate.....these ware ok because it reprofilated the cheters...but with the last upgread all it dose is stops cleen users to play as they will.....noting to stop cheters....

if u want less dull or nore naq then louck for the naq....dont aspect the game to give it to a plate....


these actualy help tauri....because:

goauld to have a bonus from ther supirior income/turn have to have a lot of units...and therefor wen they attack they lose a lot...so many dont attack....asgard dont have a high attack so there is not such a big diference for them....the only ones that are helpt are tauri....

but as i sad...the upgread wass implemented to stop cheters....the last upgread dose that widowt the help of the bank limits....so they are no longer nedet

[the Black Knight]

and exlpain how it does it?

[Psi Kiya Trist]

i'll say no simply because it adds stratagy, if you don't have enough defence to cover your naq production over 2-3 turns, you prolly need better defence. and therefor shouldn't rely on your bank as much.

there was a time when there was no bank, remember that...

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

[forgive_me]

and exlpain how it does it?

verry easy...the bank limits ware pout in place to stop macros.....if u ever seen that program then u woud know that it uses coordonates to move the mouse...as the bank and armory butons move there is almoust imposible to use macros....so there is no need to have bank limits(to stop macros) as the macros are stoped by the moving butons....

hope it clearefis for u...

[forgive_me]

there was a time when there was no bank, remember that...

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

u cheep poping this up...well it wass in the first days of the official launch... ...so wath dose it count?

[the Black Knight]

I know how macros works cause, coincidentally I was the first one to bring it in the forums. not because of cheaters,
because ppl was banking their money every freaking turns.... you could keep an eye on the listings when the money come in and half of the pages already bank their money.

bank limits forbid you from absolute safety and give more chances for movement in the game.

Well thats how I see it. and I want to make sure that u know that I understand your point also .

[chunkysoup]

ii have no opinion on this matter, but to those of you that say that it adds strategy... i think it takes some away, because tehre are many players whose strategy it is to have 2 of their ranks really high (attack and intel) and the third (defense) to be really low... this keeps their overall ranking low, allowing the rank modifier to work in their favor... this bank limit update takes that away because as you said, it requires you to have a decent defense, hence ruining rank modifier strategy...

and what strategy does it add? wait an hour or two between banking naq? you call that a strategy...

but yea, i am ambivalent to this update, just wanted to point out something i thought was flawed in one argument...

[Sleipnir]

I'm still wondering how you run out of bank turns after using that little schedule I typed up for you. It's been implemented, we all have to deal with it, if you can't, you lose.

[chunkysoup]

yea its quite possible to survive with it in place and not suffer from numerous attacks, ive been hit as much (if not less) recently as i was before, and i have 175 and 137 banking turns saved up (quantum and regular, respectively). so yea, really think its quite possible to adapt to this update, even if it does require a change in strategy (potentially using weapons as bank much more than before)...

[Sleipnir]

ii have no opinion on this matter, but to those of you that say that it adds strategy... i think it takes some away, because tehre are many players whose strategy it is to have 2 of their ranks really high (attack and intel) and the third (defense) to be really low... this keeps their overall ranking low, allowing the rank modifier to work in their favor... this bank limit update takes that away because as you said, it requires you to have a decent defense, hence ruining rank modifier strategy...

and what strategy does it add? wait an hour or two between banking naq? you call that a strategy...

but yea, i am ambivalent to this update, just wanted to point out something i thought was flawed in one argument...

Don't you think that strategy should come with its risks? Or do you just want to profit from keeping your ranks low and not suffer the consequences.


I was already thinking of limiting banking way back when it was still new. Having a bank to keep your naq safe is all nice, but there should still be some risk and some skill involved in keeping it safe.

[chunkysoup]

a valid point, and i think we finally reached the crux of this argument - what is the perfect (or most fair) balance of risk vs security that we want for this game?

[forgive_me]

Don't you think that strategy should come with its risks? Or do you just want to profit from keeping your ranks low and not suffer the consequences.


I was already thinking of limiting banking way back when it was still new. Having a bank to keep your naq safe is all nice, but there should still be some risk and some skill involved in keeping it safe.

we are geting way offtopic....i asked for a simple reason for the limits to stay...

u guys talk about taking chanse.....i can say lets implement the suprise attack...were u kill 50% of the enemys armyand distroy 40% of his weapons because he didnt aspect u coming...haw about that chind of chance....this is way offtopic....

llimits ware needet to stop cheter....ithey are not needet anymore for that...(THE ALL NAQ ON BATTLEFIELD AND OTHER ARE NOT THE RESON FOR THEM TO BE IMPLEMENTED SO IT CAN NOT BE THE REASON TO REMAIN)....

limiting the bank deposits limits a lot more tactics...like users that want to cheep up with sponsors of the game...that must stay way low in ranks and gater up naq to increise unit production....so this is only stoping tactics rater then incourege any of them...

the game IS NOT about attacking(that only favors the tauri)...its about all things...aliaces,clicking,tactics...etc....the attacking part is just one....this game is turning in only a attack game...because u dont need defence or units to be storng...u go tauri and attack anyone because there are a lot of naq because the others cant back there naq....


in the end....bank limits favors nowan...it distrois some tactics...and it destrois the echuelty between suporters of the site and players that use tactics to cheep up with that...so there are a lot of good reasons to remove them...

above this...the poll for this upgread locks like this:

Is this update a good thing?
Yes, it's great! 29% [ 15 ]
No way! 49% [ 25 ]
It will be fine now that Admin improved it. 21% [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 51

https://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?t=1948

u guis need more evidence that this dose not do anything good for the game overall(it did wen it stoped cheters...but now there are no longer nedet)

[the Black Knight]

there is just no more point of arguing on something that already took almost 14 pages of argument. Yyou just keep it up, I rest my case, I don't think we should remove it, that's it, Thats all.

Thanks and have a good night of sleep