Cosmic Trade

[Lord_Core]

To be brutaly honest with the way the market place has been handled here on main. I think we have learned a valueable leason. Lets not ruin ascention with this.

No market trades, No PPT's, No Buying stuff with cash, No attack turns, No Planets off of the cosmic trade. Nothing.

Anyone of these put into the game. Would punish the ones that did the right thing with ascention. Instead of giving the poor people who where short sighted, away out.

Keep the balance on ascention.

[Sleipnir]

The one thing that needs to be kept out of ascension is SS (or at least the part of it that lets you give stuff away). This is and has been the root of most if not all evil in this game. If used correctly, SS is a very fun addition. But most people aren't interested in correct, they're interested in profit, short cuts, scams, cheats and such.

On the other hand, a cosmic marketplace could very well be run without SS. You could trade planets for DMU for turns in ratios that are equal for everybody (but adapt to supply/demand). The worst that can happen is the strong getting stronger quicker than the weak, but ascension has a lot more ways to deal with that so it should be fine.

PS, I'll move this to ascension.

[Shooting Star]

I am afraid that I must agree with Lord Core. The marketplace has screwed the Main server so badly that it is unrecoverable, short of a total reset of the main server. I do not wish to see the same thing happen in ascension.

[MackTheKnife]

I am afraid that I must agree with Lord Core. The marketplace has screwed the Main server so badly that it is unrecoverable, short of a total reset of the main server. I do not wish to see the same thing happen in ascension.

No, it was the miners update, doubling the amount of naq made overnight was not a good thing IMO.

IMO, the more UU you have the less each one should make. Even if it's set that only it affects those with stupidly high amounts of UU (ie only those with millions upon millions upon millions" of UU, i have NFI their totals), and maybe add a death rate for them (so many miners that safety is lax, disease prevalent, the more you have the less they make and the more they die).

Nice solution to the "noobs can't catch up, strong get stronger" problem.

[Artiglio]

thats dumb ... there would be no point in gatting bigger armys if that happened ...

[Wintermute]

I'm going to agree with Lord Core as well. I don't think a market is at all necessary nor do I think it will add much to the game.

I would rather see the current set up tweaked to encourage more people to actively play ascension.

[Lord Dougy]

id rather have no market and no SS.

if SS was introduced i would definitely quit out of protest..... even tho that would be pointless as it wont effect anyone, but i'd be bored if there was ss.

[Dr Dark™]

Ah, shut up, you kno you will all use it when it comes out!
I think balance of power will happen WHEN (and only when) the market comes.

Dark

[Wintermute]

Ah, shut up, you kno you will all use it when it comes out!
I think balance of power will happen WHEN (and only when) the market comes.

Dark

Of course everyone would use it if it came out. That's not the point. The point is we would rather just not see it come out at all.

[Unknown]

Thats the thing even if we didnt agree with it if it came out if we didnt use it we may fall behind and that would be no good would it.
where as if we can stop it happening before it IS brought out we can nip a possible mess up on the game in the bud.

As long as inter player trading cannot be initiated though, i don't see it being that big a problem.
As long as the only activity happens on the official market then people cannot cheat in any way as they can use peoples turns etc... as they cannot swap resources from player to player.

Any attempt to cheat would be hard.

[RepliJake]

Thats the thing even if we didnt agree with it if it came out if we didnt use it we may fall behind and that would be no good would it.
where as if we can stop it happening before it IS brought out we can nip a possible mess up on the game in the bud.

As long as inter player trading cannot be initiated though, i don't see it being that big a problem.
As long as the only activity happens on the official market then people cannot cheat in any way as they can use peoples turns etc... as they cannot swap resources from player to player.

Any attempt to cheat would be hard.

But not impossible...

[daivahataka]

While I would like a way to get rid of turns I have to agree I'd actually rather not see the market come into play. And I DEFINITELY don't want to see SS or PPT (beyond the initial one for a new account)!

[Sleipnir]

While I would like a way to get rid of turns

Have you tried using them? Even though it may seem dounting at first, it can be a really fun practice. Especially if you use them on the wrong person and some real action ensues. Ascension is pretty tough when it comes to attacking, since you can't see those who have any decent amount of cash, and if you can, their defence is wait out of balance with their offense. But once a couple more people try it, I'm sure more and more will follow. I used to not attack, until I got attacked a couple of times myself.

[Radium]

The one thing that needs to be kept out of ascension is SS (or at least the part of it that lets you give stuff away). This is and has been the root of most if not all evil in this game. If used correctly, SS is a very fun addition. But most people aren't interested in correct, they're interested in profit, short cuts, scams, cheats and such.

I have argued against you on this in main Sleipnir, so it may come as a suprise that I totally agree with you here. I would like to see this server remain "pure", although we already have some cross server trading for DMU taking place

To me there is no difference between using cash or using cross server resources. By keeping SS off this server we can keep it cleaner.

[Lord Dougy]

well hopefully SS and trade won't come into ascension...

i don't see the point in trade personally, u all can get the resources and if u want some quicker than others, increase ur production?!