SGW Main II

[KDY]

An interesting idea came up in Wolf 359's thread in the general section. A new server identical to main but starting fresh. I support this idea and wonder what the rest of the SGW community thinks. One thing I would like to see in the new server is no donations for ingame bonuses. A game ruled by skill instead of money would be a dream come true. Post your thoughts and/or reservations here.

[JIX]

let it be known i I JIX came up with this idea

i was just to lazy to post lol

[Cole]

But money is needed to manage a game

[JIX]

But money is needed to manage a game

mhhhhh you know those adds by google on the side of EVERY page you open

ever clicked it.................because forum gets cash for it

plus i dont think Q brings in much cash nor chaos but they still running


the no ss or ppt idea might not happen but i would be kool if it did

[gooseman the first]

sounds like an ok idea, i doubt it'll ever happen tho, but itd be interesting

[Neimenljivi]

yeah would be very good but u cannot play 2 same game servers for real...I mean if u raid on 1 server it takes u sooooooooooo much time, and u would then raid on other server and it would take u very much time to...but if this will be made, 2. same sgw main server, it should be made WITHOUT any $ involved in this game and you shouldn't get SS then too,but market should stay...

regards Neimenljivi

[Inferno™]

plus i dont think Q brings in much cash nor chaos but they still running

U joking lmao.. everytime quantum resets admin gets a few grand...

[god]

It wouldn't work out the way people think...

If it was THE SAME as main, It would have to have SS. Although there is some revenue generated by the adclicks, I'm sure it is far less than you think. How many people even notice those ads anymore, and how many people have them blocked with adsense? SS would be a must to support the server costs...

Also, I can tell you from experience that adding a second server would split the player base. Some new and newer players might play main for fun, but most of them realize that they aren't going to be a dominant force in it any time soon, so most of them would choose to play new main instead. The dominant players in main might play both, but there will also be alot of players that "just don't have time for another server."

Then you would have players that only play one (whether it be main or new main) only to boost their other account. It is pretty obvious that forum doesn't have anything against cross-server trading, and rightfully so, it encourages players to play and support multiple servers, and is probably the only reason that all of the spin-off servers are as successful as they are.

Cross server trading would defeat any sort of balance that might have occured by playing a new server, as the people with the most resources in main could easily buy a quick headstart in new main, and with the exponential growth of these games would actually end up further ahead on new main than they are already.

Granted, most of this could be solved by not having SS as mentioned, but then you still run into the problems of paying for the server and splitting the player base. All in all, it would be a poor business decision without ss, and with ss, it isn't accomplishing what the person that suggested was hoping for.

[KDY]

It is true that in terms of reaping profit opening a new non-ss server wouldn't be a great business decision. It is my understanding that while SGW has come to depend upon user donations, it does not exist solely for the aforesaid purpose. I'm reasonably certain that the original SGW main generates large amounts of income. Someone else mentioned that quantum, and therefore I assume chaos, do the same to a lesser degree. I would hope that enough of a surplus exists to support a single non-ss server. Admin or someone with knowledge of the financial side of SGW will probably have to weigh in on this.

[god]

It is true that in terms of reaping profit opening a new non-ss server wouldn't be a great business decision. It is my understanding that while SGW has come to depend upon user donations, it does not exist solely for the aforesaid purpose. I'm reasonably certain that the original SGW main generates large amounts of income. Someone else mentioned that quantum, and therefore I assume chaos, do the same to a lesser degree. I would hope that enough of a surplus exists to support a single non-ss server. Admin or someone with knowledge of the financial side of SGW will probably have to weigh in on this.

although I cannot speak for forum, people forget that this IS a business. One of the first rules of business is that your primary goal is maximum profit. Even if Forum doesn't follow that rule, look at it this way... If Forum is content with whatever income he makes off of this game, and he spends say... 40 hours per week adminning it.... (10 hours per game, not too uinrealistic) Then why would he want to work 25% more to make less money??? (less because he would have the same income but higher server costs) Same situation (but worse) arises if admin wishes he made more.

Pretty much the only way this would make sense is if Forum is loaded, and just doesn't know what else to do but spend 25% more of his time and spend money on people he doesn't know.

[hidden]

how about also no alliences no commanders and officers

becaus that would make the game ruled by skill(me)instead of people like etl who can get as many good officers as he wants

[Rukia]

would there be a ascension II? i don't think its needed since the player base is split...

[Apadizamek]

Allright i also had an idea to lend to this


Allright here goes



On the website http://www.runescape.com there is something called runescape classic. It is the old runescape before it went into a giant redo.

What about SGW classic, no market, no money trades just your skill and maybe your freinds skills to help you. Ok SS works for me so you can help your freinds. But ya, no billions in the market, no nothing like that. Bring a new face, there are so many whiney people about how omega and the GA rule heres a chance to beat them.

So ya no cross server trades for this. Infact i'm willing to take the first SGW code if you still have it awith no bugs please host it myself and keep the server. There wont be an asencion nothing like that, and it be perfect i think.


also i'd give 50% of the profits to admin for the idea

[hidden]

remember runescape clasic is just because some people didnt want to adjust to the new one so they kept the old

why have a main 2 we already have quantum for people who dont think they are good enough to get to the top

[Apadizamek]

remember runescape clasic is just because some people didnt want to adjust to the new one so they kept the old

why have a main 2 we already have quantum for people who dont think they are good enough to get to the top

cause lol it aint the same theres allready a market and such

motherships all that

we want the original SGW