Well this has come to me as I watch the war between Huxley and Jo Teamaker. Now I see people saying this is the definiton of massing and this is the definition of farming blah blah blah.
So lets discuss the idea. I open the floor to any diplomate or leader of any alliance as to YOUR alliances polices and definition of
1. Farming
2. Massing
3. any other definitions you feel are noteworthy.
(I'll leave the DDE poloicy for a leader/diplomate to express)
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schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
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Re: Definitions
Well i'd like to see the forum have some sort of universal class system to judge just attacks themselves by. This is just my own opinion:
Attacks in General
Class 1. Probe Attack: 1 AT to probe defence/raid/planet defences. Essentially a scouting move which may or may not have any follow up.
Class 2. Standard Attack: (15) AT for Naq/UU Hit/Planet Hit. Just your old standard average Hit.
Class 3. Dedicated Attack: Multiple (15) AT if a standard fails. The Attack has a purpose/dedicated to taking something (naq/UU/planet) and not to cause malicious damage (although collaterial does happen).
Class 4. Hostile Attack: Multiple ATs that's sole purpose is to cause damage to a particular part of a player's account. I.E Wiping out a defence or a MS or ACing or Sabbing on purpose.
Class 5. Hostile Assault: Multiple ATs that's sole purpose is to cause complete damage to more than one part of a player's account. I.E Wiping out a defence and Sabbing.
What constitutes as farming or massing will differ between different alliance policies but judged by this system. I.E the usual of more than 3 Standard/Dedicated attacks a week by account x on account y counts as farming where as a class 4 calls in for retailation and a class 5 calls in for more severe punishment. Lets think this through and have a set system worked out that alliances can develop their policies by.
Any Thoughts, ideas, C&C?
Attacks in General
Class 1. Probe Attack: 1 AT to probe defence/raid/planet defences. Essentially a scouting move which may or may not have any follow up.
Class 2. Standard Attack: (15) AT for Naq/UU Hit/Planet Hit. Just your old standard average Hit.
Class 3. Dedicated Attack: Multiple (15) AT if a standard fails. The Attack has a purpose/dedicated to taking something (naq/UU/planet) and not to cause malicious damage (although collaterial does happen).
Class 4. Hostile Attack: Multiple ATs that's sole purpose is to cause damage to a particular part of a player's account. I.E Wiping out a defence or a MS or ACing or Sabbing on purpose.
Class 5. Hostile Assault: Multiple ATs that's sole purpose is to cause complete damage to more than one part of a player's account. I.E Wiping out a defence and Sabbing.
What constitutes as farming or massing will differ between different alliance policies but judged by this system. I.E the usual of more than 3 Standard/Dedicated attacks a week by account x on account y counts as farming where as a class 4 calls in for retailation and a class 5 calls in for more severe punishment. Lets think this through and have a set system worked out that alliances can develop their policies by.
Any Thoughts, ideas, C&C?
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Re: Definitions
I would class massing as taking out a defence.
Sabbing and ACing aswell is just total destruction.
Sabbing and ACing aswell is just total destruction.

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Re: Definitions
massing could also be just taking a ms out
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Re: Definitions
Well said Balor, Interesting to see everyone elses protocall
@Hells Angel, I agree myself
@ 38 I always called it "killing a MS" not massing but I do understand your reasoning. I can see were both would get the same reaction.
@Hells Angel, I agree myself
@ 38 I always called it "killing a MS" not massing but I do understand your reasoning. I can see were both would get the same reaction.

schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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Re: Definitions
These are not the policies of the OoC, just mine.
I have held to the belief that a random attack once a week is nothing but a simple hit for quick means.
A single attack is nothing more than a probe and should be followed up with a PM to the assailant asking what it was they hoped to accomplish.
Multiple attacks in a weeks time are farming.
Destroying a defense, sabbing or killing a MS by themselves are acts of aggression.
(Letting you know that if the status quo continues you may lose everything.)
Destroying a defense, sabbing, killing the MS and ACing is a massing.
(A total loss within the account is a massing.)
Getting multiple people to assist on any of these events is an act of war.
Handling these things one on one can be settled between those two persons rather than getting an entire alliance involved.
There is more but I am slightly distracted by my 4 kids at the moment, lmao.
I have held to the belief that a random attack once a week is nothing but a simple hit for quick means.
A single attack is nothing more than a probe and should be followed up with a PM to the assailant asking what it was they hoped to accomplish.
Multiple attacks in a weeks time are farming.
Destroying a defense, sabbing or killing a MS by themselves are acts of aggression.
(Letting you know that if the status quo continues you may lose everything.)
Destroying a defense, sabbing, killing the MS and ACing is a massing.
(A total loss within the account is a massing.)
Getting multiple people to assist on any of these events is an act of war.
Handling these things one on one can be settled between those two persons rather than getting an entire alliance involved.
There is more but I am slightly distracted by my 4 kids at the moment, lmao.


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Re: Definitions
First i think you all are smoke some good marijane.
1) Farming - attakcing a person more then 2 times in once day
2) massing - A process by which you remove a def covert mothership and a chunk of strike from someone.
3) Zeta - the process at which you bring the most pissed off teenager in the world to sit on your account(and most likey friends and alliances mates) for an extended period of time causing mass destruction and death. (some times referred to as a plague)
4) ZPO (aka Zeta Pissed off) - Process by which Zeta and his closest friends end up resetting a few alliances stats to make zeta feel better
5) Pencil - The Greatest Weapon Zeta wields. for it stops people from ascending. once threatened
Farming as Defined by Google
Zeta as Defined by Google
Massing as Defined by Google
1) Farming - attakcing a person more then 2 times in once day
2) massing - A process by which you remove a def covert mothership and a chunk of strike from someone.
3) Zeta - the process at which you bring the most pissed off teenager in the world to sit on your account(and most likey friends and alliances mates) for an extended period of time causing mass destruction and death. (some times referred to as a plague)
4) ZPO (aka Zeta Pissed off) - Process by which Zeta and his closest friends end up resetting a few alliances stats to make zeta feel better
5) Pencil - The Greatest Weapon Zeta wields. for it stops people from ascending. once threatened
Farming as Defined by Google
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Massing as Defined by Google
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Re: Definitions
Destroying a defense, sabbing or killing a MS by themselves are acts of aggression.
(Letting you know that if the status quo continues you may lose everything.)
Destroying a defense, sabbing, killing the MS and ACing is a massing.
(A total loss within the account is a massing.)
I like these tow myself Acronon
And Zeta, your one of a kind.
I still want to see some of the bigger alliances define thier take on these so we can all see and understand them.
(Letting you know that if the status quo continues you may lose everything.)
Destroying a defense, sabbing, killing the MS and ACing is a massing.
(A total loss within the account is a massing.)
I like these tow myself Acronon
And Zeta, your one of a kind.
I still want to see some of the bigger alliances define thier take on these so we can all see and understand them.

schuesseled wrote:And Yes, If someone attacked me with a knife and I had a cannon I would shoot them with it.
Age old saying that, "Dont bring a knife to a gun fight"
Reason, youll get dead.
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Re: Definitions
What some of the bigger allliances say:
2 or More attacks in one week on a single player = farming
massing - removing more then 1 stat crippling an account.
2 or More attacks in one week on a single player = farming
massing - removing more then 1 stat crippling an account.
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Re: Definitions
I was always under the impression that the DDE definition of farming was as much as we felt we needed to build our account back, and no more? 


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Re: Definitions
The problem is that everyone from the little guy to the biggest of players and alliances define things different, and I think any attempt to make a universal definition of something will be a futile attempt.
However from my point of view farming is having naq stolen two or more times in a row within a short period of time (say a week).
Massing someone in my point of view is destroying a persons defense so it only does 3 damage back (doesn't matter if you use raid or normal attacks to achieve this).
Also whilst massing is generally associated with destroying ones defense there are other things that are related to such an act. Such as mothership massing, ac-ing etc.
I think that farming and massing (plus everything associated with it) are acts of aggression, however simple one off naq hits aren't as that naq should have been banked.
However from my point of view farming is having naq stolen two or more times in a row within a short period of time (say a week).
Massing someone in my point of view is destroying a persons defense so it only does 3 damage back (doesn't matter if you use raid or normal attacks to achieve this).
Also whilst massing is generally associated with destroying ones defense there are other things that are related to such an act. Such as mothership massing, ac-ing etc.
I think that farming and massing (plus everything associated with it) are acts of aggression, however simple one off naq hits aren't as that naq should have been banked.
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Re: Definitions
there is a great definition here:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=36391
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=36391

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Re: Definitions
/me hugs Spacey and his godly search skills.
I still like my post on defines better. but hey u could just google.com
search for: Define:enterwordhere
I still like my post on defines better. but hey u could just google.com
search for: Define:enterwordhere
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Re: Definitions
Yeah, as spacey pointed out I think my definition has been stickied for a year I think? Suprisingly a lot of people haven't read it, but a majority of the people who have greatly agree with it. Plus it got stickied.
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=36391
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