SPOLIER THREAD -- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

[Spacey]

THIS THREAD IS FOR TALK ABOUT "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" WITH SPOILERS ABOUND!

AS PEOPLE GET THE BOOK AT DIFFERENT TIMES, AND READ AT DIFFERENT RATES ... READ THIS THREAD AT YOUR OWN RISK!

[Deathshotshooter]

lol, you do know, some brilliant chinese hacker, who couldnt wait, hacked into the harry potter website and stole the book?

The spoilers were all over the news.

[Spacey]

Well, this thread is mainly here because some expressed the view that they didn't want to hear spoilers in the other thread. This place is for people who have read/heard something and wish to discuss it... out of the enjoyment of those who chose to not hear about the ending before they've read it.

[Deathshotshooter]

lol, ill post something when im done, halfway thorugh

[Thelen]

[Spacey edit out]

Theres teh book

[Deathshotshooter]

This is what my friend sent me

Burbage dies on pg. 12
Hedwig dies on pg. 56
Mad-Eye dies on pg. 78
Scrimgeour dies on pg. 159
Wormtail dies on pg. 471
Dobby dies on pg. 476
Snape dies on pg. 658
Fred Weasley dies on pg. 637
Harry gets **Filtered** up by Voldemort on pg. 704 but comes back to life on pg. 724
Tonks, Lupin, and Colin Creevy have their deaths confirmed on pg. 743

19 years after the events in the book:

Ron has married Hermione, their two children are named Rose and Hugo
Harry has married Ginny, their three children are named Lily, James, and Albus Severus.
Draco Malfoy has a son named Scorpius

The epilogue shows all of the children boarding the train for Hogwarts together.

[Apadizamek]

you forgot voldemort, he dies on page 700 something.

Nice link btw, I thank you.

[Thelen]

you forgot voldemort, he dies on page 700 something.

Nice link btw, I thank you.

You mean my link i assume (i can't see any other links, but ... lol)?

[Deathshotshooter]

you forgot voldemort, he dies on page 700 something.

Nice link btw, I thank you.

lol, i told, you friend sent me this, im only half way.

[Apadizamek]

you forgot voldemort, he dies on page 700 something.

Nice link btw, I thank you.

You mean my link i assume (i can't see any other links, but ... lol)?

course yours, frankly its easier to read then the book, larger text.

As for voldemort, meh I understand. Good riddance of those bunch.

[Thelen]

yea, i'd agree it would be easier to read. You don't have to be in a silly position, getting tired arms holding up the book. Just sit at your computer and press the down button for the next page >_> Plus you can make the font bigger, easier to read, etc.

The 3 main questions i have is:
1. How did Snape use Occlumency to block Vold. when Harry managed to get in?
2. Why did Harry break off with Ginny??? (makes no fricking sense, really..)
3. Why did JK **Filtered** up the characters? Ignoring the story, she's messed with the characters, and warped them. They didn't simply grow, and change, they experienced huge changes of character. (Albus Dumbledore to start with, it really doesn't make any sense to have done that and made him out to be really not very nice when he was younger.)

[Angnoch]

yea, i'd agree it would be easier to read. You don't have to be in a silly position, getting tired arms holding up the book. Just sit at your computer and press the down button for the next page >_> Plus you can make the font bigger, easier to read, etc.

The 3 main questions i have is:
1. How did Snape use Occlumency to block Vold. when Harry managed to get in?
2. Why did Harry break off with Ginny??? (makes no fricking sense, really..)
3. Why did JK *modded* up the characters? Ignoring the story, she's messed with the characters, and warped them. They didn't simply grow, and change, they experienced huge changes of character. (Albus Dumbledore to start with, it really doesn't make any sense to have done that and made him out to be really not very nice when he was younger.)

1. Snape was a highly accomplished legillimens and managed to conceal his actual purpose Harry managed to get into Voldemort's head because they shared a piece of V. soul. If you are referring to book five when Snape is giving Harry Occulmency lessons then Harry got in because Snape was already in Harrys mind which opened a two way connection
2. Harry broke off with Ginny so as not to put her in harms way although she still managed to get in enough trouble as it was anyway
3. I think you misread that he was not mean when he was younger he was just going through a rough point and he held a grudge that he could not do as he pleased because of his sister. Grindelweld was more or less a stabilizing character for Dumbledore. The other characters did go through changes but they went through changes in every book



Did anyone else find it hilarious when harry called V. Riddle?

[Mordack]

Well, I just finished it.

Some parts were cheesy, some parts were utterly cringeworthy and some of the so-called plot twists were glaringly predictable and wholly flawed. All in all, though, I thought it was good for what it was.

Snape ftw.

[Deathshotshooter]

well i started reading at 1am, finished at about 6 am.

in my opinion..the book wasnt as good as i think it would. Rowling tried too hard to stuff a love story into this novel, to make it like, a romatic, tradgedy and some action all put together.

Secondly, the deaths, were...i found really boring. expeically how moody just died, no details, nothing, same with hedwig, all you get is that she gets hit by a spell.

Thirdly, i dont know if its just me, but i found that inthis book, it was hard to visualize harry's aventures and expiecally his hallucinations, like in book 5 and 6, i beleive Rowling gave us a better more dtailed image of harrys adventures and hallucinations, in this one its seems like, she is trying to get it over with as fast as posible. For example when harry visits Godrics Hollow, with his battle with the snake, you could get the who feeling like it was rushed, all you get is basically he gets bitten, and bam there somewhere else.

Finally i found the book very unbalanced to the previous books, im not saying this book is bad, its a great book, but relating back to the original series i found was very shaky. Rowling spent too much time with the tradgedy part of the novel, thus lacking the actual "Harry" effect given by the previous 6.

Of course this is only my opinion. The book is geat by itself, but i just found the relations back to the previous 6 books very shaky.

Deathshotshooter

[Mordack]

I agree with a lot of what you said, Deathshotshooter.

The deaths were poorly handled. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I hated the way in which Rowling handled her secondary characters in this book; by robbing them of their roles and reducing them to cannon fodder. I always liked the way in which many of the secondary characters were so vibrant and distinctive, but in this book they were reduced to the level of props to be killed off-screen. I think we could have done with a little more than a paragraph on the death of a character like Moody or Lupin.

The whole "Deathly Hallows" plotline was utterly ridiculous. It wasn't foreshadowed at all in previous books, and feels like it was stuck-on in a last ditch attempt to make things more exciting. No wonder many people who read the online leak of this book thought it was a fake. I heard a lot of people saying the leak couldn't be real because so much of the meat of the story seemed to come out of nowhere.

I also hated the stupid bit at the end. That whole "Where are they now" premise was stupid. And if she simply had to include something like that, why couldn't she have included more significant details? I wanted to see what happened in the immediate aftermath of Voldemort's death. At the least we should've gotten an epilogue set a couple of months after Voldemort's defeat. The jump years and years into the future wouldn't have been bad if we would've learned more than the fact that Harry married Ginny and Ron married Hermione. What's Harry done with his life since Voldemort's defeat? How was the wizarding community put back together after institutions like the Ministry of Magic were decimated? We didn't get any answers.

I guess the best way to sum up my feelings about this book is to say that it felt like Rowling approached this book in a very workmanlike fashion. She had a checklist of things she needed to cover and she made it very obvious when she was checking something off the list.