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Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:47 pm
by High Empty
VOte
On Increasing lifeforce.
Meaning that if your max was at 50k, 10x would make it at 500k.
meaning that the smaller players can upgrade there accounts more quickly. and it doesn't really help the larger player who generate too much dmu anyways.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:03 pm
by V|per
No, it should stay the same.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:23 pm
by Gandalf the White
Upgrading max LF is punative currently for small accounts. For Example a level 43 gives you 29379 max LF. The next level costs 398535 LF to give about 800 or so extra max LF points. 800! Whats the point in a small account like mine spending 4 billion dmu to do that when you get the extra 800 by converting 8mill dmu (equivalent) every day. I imagine the cost/benefit analysis is 100's of times worse for those above me.
An increase would be nice. maybe 10x is too much though. 2x would be a good start just to see how it goes.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:55 pm
by Hensenshi
Definitely like this idea.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:01 pm
by ~Krys~
i like any change to ascended in regards to this
wouldn't mind change of ascension rates either
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:53 pm
by KGC
Sounds like a good change. I support it.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:07 am
by samson1111
long time ago I read a good suggestion, where every1 should get the same amount of APPs... this would help the smaller players. But what I was thinking, that this APP or LF could be used only for power up upgrades. Lets say:
Every1 gets x ammount of LF every month.
the LF would be stored in a special LF storage, that couldnt be transformed into normal LF or DMU... it could be used only for power up upgrades
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:50 am
by Hansbrough
this is one of the better suggested I've read in a while.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:15 am
by Raven
It would also mean easier descensions right? or wasnt that the purpose of this anyway?
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:32 am
by buck
Sounds like a good change, and this way you can take away all the silly cotten wool so small people will either have to grow or die!
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:50 am
by High Empty
Gandalf the White wrote:Upgrading max LF is punative currently for small accounts. For Example a level 43 gives you 29379 max LF. The next level costs 398535 LF to give about 800 or so extra max LF points. 800! Whats the point in a small account like mine spending 4 billion dmu to do that when you get the extra 800 by converting 8mill dmu (equivalent) every day. I imagine the cost/benefit analysis is 100's of times worse for those above me.
An increase would be nice. maybe 10x is too much though. 2x would be a good start just to see how it goes.
Ok were going to take your example of level 43, that gives you 29379 and the next one costs 398535, and only gives you a 800 increase, what i'm suggesting is, that levels 43 gets you 293790, so that you still only get an 8000, increase but it doesn't take your account, 10 years to get that lifeforce.
Still i would press for a higher then 10x increase.
Raven, it's like this, you haven't yet to make a suggestion that anyone liked even yourself, that doesn't just invole reseting the server. But yeah this update would make it easier to descend someone sort of, it's called by giving them more, it means that they can lose more. Not really going to be bad for the smaller guys, or the guys who don't run their mouths, however it is going to be bad for the guys that thought well i can do what i want cause there no way they can descend me as i've gotten so much lifeforce that i just log in every 2 days to make sure it's still there. For the smaller players it is going to make descending harder, as they have more lifeforce.
Basicly this update is a + for those accounts that are trying to actively play.
This update is a - for those account that stock up on lifeforce and then go and forget to log in for a month.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:07 pm
by Hells__Angel
Still don't fully understand what you are suggesting

Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:39 pm
by Tauriman77
i would really like to see this come in, the reason i dont really play ascension is because its way to hard to get a good account made, the ones on top now will be on top forever unless an update is made to help newer players a bit.
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:53 pm
by nimious
far beter would be if admin finaly change rate for trading APP to LF
Re: Bang for buck
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:37 pm
by Raven
High Empty wrote:Gandalf the White wrote:Upgrading max LF is punative currently for small accounts. For Example a level 43 gives you 29379 max LF. The next level costs 398535 LF to give about 800 or so extra max LF points. 800! Whats the point in a small account like mine spending 4 billion dmu to do that when you get the extra 800 by converting 8mill dmu (equivalent) every day. I imagine the cost/benefit analysis is 100's of times worse for those above me.
An increase would be nice. maybe 10x is too much though. 2x would be a good start just to see how it goes.
Ok were going to take your example of level 43, that gives you 29379 and the next one costs 398535, and only gives you a 800 increase, what i'm suggesting is, that levels 43 gets you 293790, so that you still only get an 8000, increase but it doesn't take your account, 10 years to get that lifeforce.
Still i would press for a higher then 10x increase.
Raven, it's like this, you haven't yet to make a suggestion that anyone liked even yourself, that doesn't just invole reseting the server. But yeah this update would make it easier to descend someone sort of, it's called by giving them more, it means that they can lose more. Not really going to be bad for the smaller guys, or the guys who don't run their mouths, however it is going to be bad for the guys that thought well i can do what i want cause there no way they can descend me as i've gotten so much lifeforce that i just log in every 2 days to make sure it's still there. For the smaller players it is going to make descending harder, as they have more lifeforce.
Basicly this update is a + for those accounts that are trying to actively play.
This update is a - for those account that stock up on lifeforce and then go and forget to log in for a month.
Im not gonna make a suggestion cause ascension is beyond help from anything......see what admin did to 'fix' ascension.....even he is desperate....
Your proposing it as a help for smaller players but its more a burden you just bring it a nice way.....you had to add that if this goes up everyone is easily descended and you up there can rule the server.......you didnt so i complain else you wouldnt have seen me in this thread ......