Can you trust a promise from the Omegan Empire?

[geisha]

Talk to EtL or KGC about violations by Omega, to GunZ about Delta, to Don Lewis about Alpha, to Orpheus about Mahyem and to me about Pi.

Or just post it all on the forums or maybe even have it tattooed on your forehead if that whole taking it public thing turns you on so much.

I am now for the first time being contacted by ceasar about violations of the agreement by Pi and we will have this sorted very soon. It really isn't that hard to get in touch with the Omegan Empire HC.

Besides many of these logs are farming hits which were perfectly acceptable between may 7th and may 11th. The Pi logs were full of CoTO.

[Hysteria]

I'm sorry Geisha but it is the same old stuff you are spouting.....

It's perfectly acceptable For OE members to..........

Oh never mind, The logs are there...............I"m sure you have your alliance logs.

I gave my reasons for asking this question.....

Not to start a **Filtered** contest or to insult persons on a personal level.....

The logs are there and the facts are there from "MY" experience. Other players may differ in their dealings with your alliance and if they are good then those comments are also welcome so I can get a valid answer to my question.

I was simply looking for an informed adult debate on the subject. Why do you think the poll has 3 options to vote with.

If this can't be achieved I'll close this thread as it will become non productive

[KGC]

As TO leadership knows they can contact me, as Omega's Head of Diplomacy, or any of the individual alliance leaders about NAP violations. Not one TO member has come to me to sort any of these things out. And it's not like I'm never on msn.

Ask TLE if we honor our NAP with them, and whether violations thereof have been sorted or not. I doubt it would have been extended on numerous occasions if this were not the case.

Btw, our NAP with TO ended on May 7th, so all attacks from May 7th til yesterday don't count, unless it was a massing or planet stealing. So the logs you posted are disinformation. Most of those are single hits. Only if they were a massing or planet stealing do they have any relevance, and even so, you should have contacted me or another OE leader about compensation.

[Rottenking]

i have allways found OE pretty respectful

and that goes both ways.
i have on the odd occasion accidentally broken the nap, and had no problem repaying when contacted.
and have also contacted and been re payed when i was hit.

also OE members have gone so far to explain my officers of mine were massed, or why they were going to be massed in quite respectful ways


now thats just me, i cannot really grasp the full picture that this thread was made about, because i was not their....but im sure with lots of communication and cooperation and perspiration (hehe) it can be sorted out

[Hysteria]

Kevin, that was a log, not doctered or altered in any way. there is no disinformation.....

As I previously stated I'm running a poll and I provided some logs from my point of view......

I'm sure there are traders and other alliances with trade logs or logs showing other positive aspects of OE, they are welcome to post them here and vote.

In response to "Contacting" OE leadership I believe there have been problems with my allies not recieving responses to their attempts to communicate with members of your alliance in the past and I'm also sure those problems will have now been resolved, or shortly will be.

Also Kevin I stated in my post about the details of the Cease fire and the relative dates, it's possible you missed that in my post.

[Juliette]

To answer your question, Hysteria:

Yes, you can.
- They promise to mass you, they will.
- They promise to leave you alone, they will, or are easily contacted to rectify mistakes.
- They promise to wipe you from the face of the earth, they will.


^_^
And if they do attack you, one can learn a lot from just watching.

[Hysteria]

Thanks for your comment, it's as valid as the others and please vote your support for OE on this poll

Remember this is an excercise to gague a communities feelings.

NOTE: You must have had dealings with OE to give a valid post/vote that is either positive or negative.

VOTING negatively simply to **Filtered** is not valid and only takes from the poll.

[caesar2]

@KGC i tryed to contatc OE allainces, and i did, but not all was sorted. Your right i didnt try to contatc you, my fault. i knw many ppl have RL problems, i gave 3*24 hours time to whom i sent reports... no answer as well.

BUT... i was talking with delta, pi and alpha... they all promised to sort this all asap. omega wasnt contacted cuse they didnt broke agreements. (not counting few war declarations, but its not relevand )

onestly, im not thinking i cant trust OE, im jsut missing answers and as i said, all is in move atm, will post here all news about.

[Wepwaet]

For the part about the planet and ascended, well without you providing specifics I can't comment even if I was inclined to. Pertaining to the farming that went on after the nap ended, thats just it THE NAP ENDED. Reread what you wrote with regard to the nap... "(B) was extended until the 7th of may while OE considered it's members positions on a full NAP" It doesn't say the nap is THROUGH the 7th, it says UNTIL. Unless you have logs on the 6th and earlier about the second half of your complaint, you really don't have a leg to stand on other then oops I need to read better.

[Juliette]

NOTE: You must have had dealings with OE to give a valid post/vote that is either positive or negative.

Being massed yesterday counts as 'dealings with OE'?
In that case.. ^_^

[Hysteria]

Well as the POLL shows it's on the basis of giving their word on something, I was looking at things like
cease fire agreements
Naps
Promisses to repay individualy
Prommises to mass individuals
Trading
, etc.

An allaince is more than just it's military, it's the the individuals in the groups attitude it has twoards others. So as previously stated it's an Exercise. PErsons should feel free to post positive or negative PM's in communications with OE.

Neutrals can simply say that they never had any dealings with OE, that also gives an indication of trends, etc

[~Krys~]

ive had mixed responses sent my complaint to geisha when i had a problem with a member(week later no response lol)

the day after the nap ended a nice member of your alliance Soloral on ascended got rid of most of my assains cause i attacked him once

i sent him a msg saying something about u shouldnt done that as stated with conditions on nap yada yada didnt even ask for reparations

"Wasnt a mass, if you think thats a mass then dont hit me"

Now i asked for reparations due to being annoyed at him(
Then "Well, you hit me for DMU, there is ur payment take it from that. Next hit will be ur strike and defense"

Charming little fellow aye nice to see what you guys promote, you guys wonder why you have such a bad public image its members like him

[blahh]

To answer your question, Hysteria:

Yes, you can.
- They promise to mass you, they will.
- They promise to leave you alone, they will, or are easily contacted to rectify mistakes.
- They promise to wipe you from the face of the earth, they will.


^_^
And if they do attack you, one can learn a lot from just watching.

I d beg to differ on the 3rd point, but its just from personal experience

Other than that on topic, most of my dealings with FUALL have been strait forward, and they have kept their word on most of ocaisions, aside a few hickups like the 2 tokko incidents that were not resloved with their usual "reputation" I cant remember an issue not being solved in apropriate manor atm.

[TheRook]

I couldn't pick two options but if I could it would be 1 and 2 (yes and no)

its purely dependant on the player and this can apply to any alliance not just OE.


TheRook

[Memento]

ur right KGC i didnt contact u but i did however contact GunZ who by my understanding is 2IC of OE so went to nearly the top

this is on me

May 10, 2008 PSICOLIX Renegadze lost 15 0 7,171 xxx xxx details
May 10, 2008 PSICOLIX Attack defended 15 0 730 xxx xxx details
May 10, 2008 PSICOLIX Attack defended 15 0 692 xxx xxx details
May 10, 2008 PSICOLIX Attack defended 15 0 730 xxx xxx details
May 10, 2008 PSICOLIX Attack defended 15 0 677 xxx xxx details

Gunz was told nothing happened still waiting on confirmation to take my biggest income planet back

this is the message received from PSI

this planet was for the 2 hits you and ceasar2 did on me in ascension, if i get any other hit from TO prepare to war, because as soon the 60 days ends you guys will start get massed again. att psicolix

we have had others stolen aswell i await to hear from the OE council again

on a side note i only started posting on this cos talks with GunZ had broken down, please be aware why this topic was made and act accordingly, this isnt hate omega topic this is give us some understanding of ur actions)