I agree with Mordack,
Things should be changed around here, but that petition is completely swayed, i already had FS remove one very unwarrented comment on there, and we know who it was.
We need ALOT of people to go to the admin meet and raise the concerns there, its a shame the mods that agree with the community cannot speak up, because they just get shunned removed and replaced with the next person sucking up on msn, to bad really........
Petition to Jason
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Re: Petition to Jason
Deep within Noob Cave, you find a strange pool filled with a glowing blue liquid. You think back to what your mother told you about unfamiliar liquids found in caves.
You're pretty sure she said "Drink it! What's the worst that can happen?"
You're pretty sure she said "Drink it! What's the worst that can happen?"
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Re: Petition to Jason
GeneralChaos wrote:I agree with Mordack,
Things should be changed around here, but that petition is completely swayed, i already had FS remove one very unwarrented comment on there, and we know who it was.
We need ALOT of people to go to the admin meet and raise the concerns there, its a shame the mods that agree with the community cannot speak up, because they just get shunned removed and replaced with the next person sucking up on msn, to bad really........
Lol m8 actually i am still here and i have already said what i mean and feel also to smoosh and i think the mods in the team know who i feel should be removed but meh please forget me as you find me a bad mod
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Re: Petition to Jason
Mordack isn't the only mod posting (well not posting but having a name steal for fake signature), many mods posted with the same message...
And half is anonymous messageless.
And half is anonymous messageless.
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Re: Petition to Jason
Legendary Apophis wrote:Mordack isn't the only mod posting (well not posting but having a name steal for fake signature), many mods posted with the same message...
And half is anonymous messageless.
Hey is my name on the petition cant be bothered to look ??
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Re: Petition to Jason
Im cleaning it up allready when you find a fake name point it out and i remove it
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Re: Petition to Jason
Nimras wrote:Legendary Apophis wrote:Mordack isn't the only mod posting (well not posting but having a name steal for fake signature), many mods posted with the same message...
And half is anonymous messageless.
Hey is my name on the petition cant be bothered to look ??
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18 THESAZ Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
19 DaDigi Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
20 Mordack Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
21 Thade Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
22 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
23 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
24 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
25 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.[/spoiler]
Not really...lol @ some names appearing in that list who happen to be "targets"...
I can say like 75% of this is fake (people who wouldnt vote/are marked as anonymous)
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Re: Petition to Jason
Legendary Apophis wrote:Nimras wrote:Legendary Apophis wrote:Mordack isn't the only mod posting (well not posting but having a name steal for fake signature), many mods posted with the same message...
And half is anonymous messageless.
Hey is my name on the petition cant be bothered to look ??
[spoiler]16 Biscut
17 Smoo
18 THESAZ Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
19 DaDigi Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
20 Mordack Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
21 Thade Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
22 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
23 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
24 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
25 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.[/spoiler]
Not really...lol @ some names appearing in that list who happen to be "targets"...
Feel so hurt here no one liked me enough to put my name up there maybe i should sign it just to get on there lol.
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Re: Petition to Jason
FreeSpirit wrote:http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sgwstaff/
Sign if u feel the need.
yeah just like when we petitioned to jason to have u removed but u acted like a prissy 14 year old girl and begged him to let u back.
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Re: Petition to Jason
if you want to petition, Then every person should send an e-mail to mister forum.
A mass amount of e-mails, will get his attension.
A petition website which has already been compromised, isnt exactly what id call, political weight.
A mass amount of e-mails, will get his attension.
A petition website which has already been compromised, isnt exactly what id call, political weight.
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Re: Petition to Jason
Claim: Signing and circulating online petitions is an effective way of remedying important issues.
Status: False.
Origins: The 2000s have seen the birth of an Internet phenomenon: the e-petition. It offers instant comfort to those outraged by the latest ills of the world through its implicit assurance that affixing their names to a statement decrying a situation and demanding change will make a difference. That assurance is a severely flawed one for a multitude of reasons.
Often petitions contain no information about whom they are ultimately intended for and instead are no more than outpourings of outrage. Expressions of outrage are fine and good, but if they don't reach someone who can have impact on the core problem, they're wasted. Thus, a petition that doesn't clearly identify the intended recipient may have some small value as a way for its signers to work off angst, but as an instrument of social change it fails miserably.
Even those that clearly identify the intended recipient don't come with a guarantee that the person slated to receive the document is in any position to influence matters. A misdirected petition is of no more use than an undirected one; though the voices it contains may be shouting, they won't be heard.
Even well-addressed, well-thought-out petitions have their problems, chief among them the lack of a guarantee that anyone is collecting and collating the signatures or will deliver the completed documents to the right parties. The mere existence of a petition doesn't warrant that anyone will do anything with it once it is completed.
Moreover, petitions aren't the instruments of social change we'd so dearly love to believe they are. Yes, a petition festooned with a zillion signatures can have some influence, but only as a tangible proof of a subset of public opinion, and only upon those whose welfare is dependent upon public opinion (eg. politicians). Those signatures aren't votes, and they aren't treated as such by the governing bodies that have to decide on the tough questions of our times. At best, they're seen as an indication of the public's will, no more.
Paper-and-ink petitions are signed in a variety of handwriting styles, each unique to its signer. Consequently, signatures on a paper-and-ink petition cannot easily be faked else certain glaring similarities would show up in one entry after another.
E-petitions, however, come with no such assurance — the same person could have generated all of the signatures. Moreover, it takes little by way of programming skills to create a sequence of code that will randomly generate fake names, e-mail addresses, and cities (or whatever combination of same the e-petition calls for). Once written, such a program can be executed with a keystroke, resulting in the effortless generation of thousands upon thousands of "signatures."
Those in a position to influence anything know this and thus accord e-petitions only slightly more respect than they would a blank sheet of paper. Thus, even the best written, properly addressed, and lovingly delivered e-petitions whose every signature was scrupulously vetted by the petition's creator fall into the same vortex of disbelief at the receiving end that less carefully shepherded missives find themselves relegated to.
Okay, so the average e-petition isn't ultimately worth the pixels it took to create it; why are they so popular?
In a world beset by complex problems, the solutions of which will take enormous amounts of time, money, and commitment, such simplification as the e-petition provides a welcome relief. Imagine having the power to solve those problems! Moreover, imagine having it merely at the click of a mouse!
Of course, that same valid purpose could be better served by essays circulated on the Internet. Essays, at least, don't foster this growing climate of slacktivism, of participation at no cost, of lasting social change achieved through no effort.
Those truly committed to righting the wrongs of the world are encouraged to take pen in hand and craft actual letters to their congressmen or to whomever they deem are the appropriate people to contact about particular issues. Real letters (the kind that are written in a person's own words and sent through the regular mail) are accorded far more respect than form letters (let alone petitions), and that should be kept in mind by those intent upon being heard. Yes, the effort it takes is far larger. But so is the potential for making an actual difference.
Status: False.
Origins: The 2000s have seen the birth of an Internet phenomenon: the e-petition. It offers instant comfort to those outraged by the latest ills of the world through its implicit assurance that affixing their names to a statement decrying a situation and demanding change will make a difference. That assurance is a severely flawed one for a multitude of reasons.
Often petitions contain no information about whom they are ultimately intended for and instead are no more than outpourings of outrage. Expressions of outrage are fine and good, but if they don't reach someone who can have impact on the core problem, they're wasted. Thus, a petition that doesn't clearly identify the intended recipient may have some small value as a way for its signers to work off angst, but as an instrument of social change it fails miserably.
Even those that clearly identify the intended recipient don't come with a guarantee that the person slated to receive the document is in any position to influence matters. A misdirected petition is of no more use than an undirected one; though the voices it contains may be shouting, they won't be heard.
Even well-addressed, well-thought-out petitions have their problems, chief among them the lack of a guarantee that anyone is collecting and collating the signatures or will deliver the completed documents to the right parties. The mere existence of a petition doesn't warrant that anyone will do anything with it once it is completed.
Moreover, petitions aren't the instruments of social change we'd so dearly love to believe they are. Yes, a petition festooned with a zillion signatures can have some influence, but only as a tangible proof of a subset of public opinion, and only upon those whose welfare is dependent upon public opinion (eg. politicians). Those signatures aren't votes, and they aren't treated as such by the governing bodies that have to decide on the tough questions of our times. At best, they're seen as an indication of the public's will, no more.
Paper-and-ink petitions are signed in a variety of handwriting styles, each unique to its signer. Consequently, signatures on a paper-and-ink petition cannot easily be faked else certain glaring similarities would show up in one entry after another.
E-petitions, however, come with no such assurance — the same person could have generated all of the signatures. Moreover, it takes little by way of programming skills to create a sequence of code that will randomly generate fake names, e-mail addresses, and cities (or whatever combination of same the e-petition calls for). Once written, such a program can be executed with a keystroke, resulting in the effortless generation of thousands upon thousands of "signatures."
Those in a position to influence anything know this and thus accord e-petitions only slightly more respect than they would a blank sheet of paper. Thus, even the best written, properly addressed, and lovingly delivered e-petitions whose every signature was scrupulously vetted by the petition's creator fall into the same vortex of disbelief at the receiving end that less carefully shepherded missives find themselves relegated to.
Okay, so the average e-petition isn't ultimately worth the pixels it took to create it; why are they so popular?
In a world beset by complex problems, the solutions of which will take enormous amounts of time, money, and commitment, such simplification as the e-petition provides a welcome relief. Imagine having the power to solve those problems! Moreover, imagine having it merely at the click of a mouse!
Of course, that same valid purpose could be better served by essays circulated on the Internet. Essays, at least, don't foster this growing climate of slacktivism, of participation at no cost, of lasting social change achieved through no effort.
Those truly committed to righting the wrongs of the world are encouraged to take pen in hand and craft actual letters to their congressmen or to whomever they deem are the appropriate people to contact about particular issues. Real letters (the kind that are written in a person's own words and sent through the regular mail) are accorded far more respect than form letters (let alone petitions), and that should be kept in mind by those intent upon being heard. Yes, the effort it takes is far larger. But so is the potential for making an actual difference.
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Re: Petition to Jason
Uhm, if my name hasn't been removed from that list please do so. I don't exactly write like that.
I do have to wonder who would have been so blatant in their faking of sigs on the petition; almost as though they wanted to get caught and thus invalidate the entire thing. O well, mere suspicions with no evidence.
And Buck has a point having users who truly feel the mod team has overstepped their bounds should go through the ombudsman. If they feel that the solution there is unsatisfactory then a large attendance at the Admin Meeting or a prolific amount of PMs from accounts would be the next step. Repetitious posting of similar topics that do not have clear defined intentions will only result in nothing happening. Offering a clear outline of abuse of power and a concise solution to the problem would be the best course of action.
I do have to wonder who would have been so blatant in their faking of sigs on the petition; almost as though they wanted to get caught and thus invalidate the entire thing. O well, mere suspicions with no evidence.
And Buck has a point having users who truly feel the mod team has overstepped their bounds should go through the ombudsman. If they feel that the solution there is unsatisfactory then a large attendance at the Admin Meeting or a prolific amount of PMs from accounts would be the next step. Repetitious posting of similar topics that do not have clear defined intentions will only result in nothing happening. Offering a clear outline of abuse of power and a concise solution to the problem would be the best course of action.
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Re: Petition to Jason
Legendary Apophis wrote:Nimras wrote:Legendary Apophis wrote:Mordack isn't the only mod posting (well not posting but having a name steal for fake signature), many mods posted with the same message...
And half is anonymous messageless.
Hey is my name on the petition cant be bothered to look ??
[spoiler]16 Biscut
17 Smoo
18 THESAZ Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
19 DaDigi Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
20 Mordack Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
21 Thade Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
22 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
23 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
24 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.
25 Anonymous Do these fools think they're gods of SGW or something ? Dont they know there's only one TRUE godess of SGW.[/spoiler]
Not really...lol @ some names appearing in that list who happen to be "targets"...
I can say like 75% of this is fake (people who wouldnt vote/are marked as anonymous)
Take my name off that **Filtered** petition. I did not sign it.
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Re: Petition to Jason
Jack TheBunny Ripper wrote:You know it's funny cause I was just thinking that faking things in order to garner more support is exactly what FS is all about.
i fake some things too but i don't think my gf likes when i do it though.....