Very Intelligent Syntax Argument (VISA)

[semper]

Davidania Scooby Doobie Doo. I remember our time in AI, was an interesting time that I did enjoy.

All the best Daniel!

Do svidanya? Or a David-joke?




Goodbye Scoobie.

I meant dasvidanya, seems we both had a typing/spelling nightmare.

[Juliette]

Davidania Scooby Doobie Doo. I remember our time in AI, was an interesting time that I did enjoy.

All the best Daniel!

Do svidanya? Or a David-joke?




Goodbye Scoobie.

I meant dasvidanya, seems we both had a typing/spelling nightmare.

Nope.. my Russian is impeccable.. I may have missed an extra "i" in svidaniya, but that's about the extent of my nightmare, honey.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085932/ - One figures the Russians know how to spell their own goodbye. (As opposed to crazed-ass Indians making movies perverting the actual spelling..)

Na zdorovje,
Jo

[semper]

Davidania Scooby Doobie Doo. I remember our time in AI, was an interesting time that I did enjoy.

All the best Daniel!

Do svidanya? Or a David-joke?




Goodbye Scoobie.

I meant dasvidanya, seems we both had a typing/spelling nightmare.

Nope.. my Russian is impeccable.. I may have missed an extra "i" in svidaniya, but that's about the extent of my nightmare, honey.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085932/ - One figures the Russians know how to spell their own goodbye. (As opposed to crazed-ass Indians making movies perverting the actual spelling..)

Na zdorovje,
Jo

Russians may do (I certainly hope they do..) but then again you should also know that things are spelt differently in different ways (colour, color.. centre, center do svidaniya, dasvidanya, cataphracts, kataphraktos) as well as they are pronounced in different ways.. lee-jure time opposed to le-jure time eye-rak opposed to i-rark, Makie-avelian opposed to mashi-avelian, cataphracts opposed to ca-ta-frac-toi, sempER opposed to sempair... I am upper class english, ergo by egotistical right of ultimate power, the way I say and spell it, is right, such is our arrogant nature. Then again no one, save us, has any problem with the americans using a bastardized form of our language.

meh. Semantics are always fun to toy with though. I suggest at risk of high jacking this farewell thread any further, you use the old mod powers and split our post's!

[Juliette]

I'll accept your bastardized form of the Russian goodbye, and enjoy my victory.
Don't you agree that resorting to absurd arguments is an indirect admission of defeat?

After all, saying "It's just the way I type it" can be extended to other debates infinitely, .. but it's absurd.

[Jack]

I came expecting a debate about programming, I leave disappointed.

[Juliette]

. Then again no one, save us, has any problem with the americans using a bastardized form of our language.

we yanks, have the only true language, yall just be using an out-dated version of it

Do.
Not.
Spam.

Jack: No. Syntax = spelling.

[Jack]

language evolves, english, has evolved. What semper states is the true version, is nothing more than a past version of american english. And someday that too will become out-dated and a newer version will become predominent.

He's right, Oxford English Dictionary anyone?

Jack: No. Syntax = spelling.

It's also the rules governing the formation of statements in a programming language.

[semper]

I'll accept your bastardized form of the Russian goodbye, and enjoy my victory.
Don't you agree that resorting to absurd arguments is an indirect admission of defeat?

After all, saying "It's just the way I type it" can be extended to other debates infinitely, .. but it's absurd.

Now, now... that's by no means an absurd argument in the case of spelling and basic principles of foreign language, you're just presuming to extend it so far..an absurd argument would be calling upon wittgenstein and the old beetle in the box, perhaps even throwing in some solipsism as I have not used it in oh so long...

the point I was getting at, as far as you are concerned..is that I did not know how to spell it, so used my english language knowledge, and the sounding of the word (which I know I do have correct) to write the word in a different form, as is done all the time. Even when I have, in years gone by, typed it into google.. the same word has been returned to represent goodbye in Russian, and that in my arrogance instead of actually checking further to see if I was indeed correct, I naturally presumed I was right, and as, obviously, I am english we cannot be wrong.

The latter point, of course.. was basically.. if the Americans are going to corrupt my language unchallenged in similar means, then leave me a lone with my russian!

The entire post was not actually as cocky as it may have appeared, had people read between the lines.

That of course, is actually what the very final point was referring too. The 'Semantics are fun', as of course.. I knew all this would be what would be taken from my post and the language used.

You may be right about the Russian dear Universe, but I fooled you all again.

language evolves, english, has evolved. What semper states is the true version, is nothing more than a past version of american english. And someday that too will become out-dated and a newer version will become predominent.

No.. evolution, implies improvement. I would more refer to this as the law of diminishing returns. The english language has been spread and used - copied, so many times by countless idiots.. it is now filled with inaccuracies that even I, with my extensive vocabulary, cannot fully remove for use.

American English.. is non-existant. It is just a lazy.. degraded version of the closest descendant of REAL english, but alas still just english. You mispronounce words, misspell them... american english, please...LAZY english would be the most benevolent term that accurately applies to such a thing.

Glad to have been of service one again.

Oh! And jackipoo's! I am quite certain Syntax would have referred to language before it referred to laws of computer language, but there really just the same thing...

[Jack]

Oh! And jackipoo's! I am quite certain Syntax would have referred to language before it referred to laws of computer language, but there really just the same thing...

It is, but my point was that, as a good nerd, the first thing that popped up into my mind when I saw syntac was coding.

[semper]

language evolves, english, has evolved. What semper states is the true version, is nothing more than a past version of american english. And someday that too will become out-dated and a newer version will become predominent.

No.. evolution, implies improvement. I would more refer to this as the law of diminishing returns. The english language has been spread and used - copied, so many times by countless idiots.. it is now filled with inaccuracies that even I, with my extensive vocabulary, cannot fully remove for use.

American English.. is non-existant. It is just a lazy.. degraded version of the closest descendant of REAL english, but alas still just english. You mispronounce words, misspell them... american english, please...LAZY english would be the most benevolent term that accurately applies to such a thing.

Evolution -
noun 1. any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.

It does not mean better, atleast not directly

Using your logic Semper, your english, would not be true either, it would be further back, maybe elizabethen, maybe further

Things can evolve into worse versions, look at technology

tut tut tut tut... I did not say it meant that, I said it implies that. A long those lines too, I would be my bottom dollar that's how you were thinking of it too.. not its less positive truer meaning.

I never said my english is 'true'. All I said was it is right, which of course naturally implies in the context of the present. Truth however is supposedly above context and situation. I also clearly stated that even I could not ultimately use correct english in the end because of acts such as americans using my language, that has corrupted it beyond its origins.

technology has not evolved into worse within itself. Growth is an increase... in strength and beyond. It is a positive act for the thing in question, as too is development.

The growth of a cancer tumor is a 'positive' move for the tumor, not the sufferer. Technology has become more advanced, versatile and more efficient. Perhaps not good for the planet, a double edged sword for humans.. but good for the technology.

The current situation of the english language is not good for it. It is not growth, it is not a significant development, evolution or the likes. It is a degrading, deterioration, decrease, devolution...