PPT idea

[Vegito]

[quote=Lord Anubis]I don't agree with this... merely for the fact that this would take away the advantage that it provides ... like getting your next spy lvls...

look, in one ppt, you can easily get your next spy lvl unless it is over like 20billion, come on[/quote]

Umm... my next spy lvl is 50bil... come on... this is alot... and I don't know how I am supposed to get this without ppt... so... ok... whatever.. i am done with this post... In fact I am done with the forum... if you guys want to change the game... go for it... I don't care anymore... i will just play the game and not try to change or interfer with change from now on... peace out from A town...

[Wolf359]

I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.

Erm - ever heard of Vacation Mode?

And the point is - it isn't fine - the current limits do not appear to be working.

I go on business trips all the time - I am away from my home city 2 or 3 times a week, yet I do not constantly use PPT.

[Wolf359]

[quote=Lord Anubis]I don't agree with this... merely for the fact that this would take away the advantage that it provides ... like getting your next spy lvls..


look, in one ppt, you can easily get your next spy lvl unless it is over like 20billion, come on

Umm... my next spy lvl is 50bil... come on... this is alot... and I don't know how I am supposed to get this without ppt... so... ok... whatever.. i am done with this post... In fact I am done with the forum... if you guys want to change the game... go for it... I don't care anymore... i will just play the game and not try to change or interfer with change from now on... peace out from A town...

Why the 'I'm done with this topic' strop? I'm afraid to say that you are massively missing the point, if ppt was further limited (I'd say 3 per calendar month is more than adequate), then high spy levels would still be achievable - you just need to work harder at forging relationsips to get UU in order to do it.

And if PPTs had been limited sooner, then people would not now be abusing - YES ABUSING - PPTs constantly in order to get higher spy levels.

What I mean is, if you need - as in your case - 50 billion naq to get your next level, and let's say you are limited to 3 PPTs per month (with a method in place to avoid a string of 6 PPTs over a 2 month period), and you only manage to raise 40 billion naq using your 3 PPTs, then obviously you need to raise 10 billion naq from elsewhere - this could easily be made by stockpiling and selling weapons, attacking and stealing naq, loaning it from another player - that is playing the game and having a strategy - weighing up the odds, deciding what you can sacrifice and what is more important to you, rather than not playing the game and ABUSING PPT.

And I know some of you are going to say 'but weapons can be sabbed' - like I said - it is playing the game - and that is a risk that you have to decide whether to take if you want your next level.

Don't get me wrong - PPTs are an essential part of the game - but it seems that for some people, PPTs have BECAME the game.

I seriously hope that Forum will consider limiting the number of PPTs further. I firmly believe that it would enhance the game by forcing the player to manage his or her resources more effectively and forcing them to become more involved in the game (which is what we all want), rather than just flicking a switch and sitting back.

the only real question is by how much do we limit it? I'd say limit to 2-3 PPTs per month, with a system in place that prevents you using them at the end of one month and the beginning of another consecutively.

And I still haven't had any real response as to how it would cause detriment to the game.

[god]

I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.

Erm - ever heard of Vacation Mode?

And the point is - it isn't fine - the current limits do not appear to be working.

I go on business trips all the time - I am away from my home city 2 or 3 times a week, yet I do not constantly use PPT.

heard of it. but why use it? It is better for me and everyone else to use PPT... that way I don't lose ground in the game because I have a job.

so people are on PPT... big deal. there are still plenty of people to be farmed so it isn't a problem.

[Wolf359]

I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.

Erm - ever heard of Vacation Mode?

And the point is - it isn't fine - the current limits do not appear to be working.

I go on business trips all the time - I am away from my home city 2 or 3 times a week, yet I do not constantly use PPT.

heard of it. but why use it? It is better for me and everyone else to use PPT... that way I don't lose ground in the game because I have a job.

so people are on PPT... big deal. there are still plenty of people to be farmed so it isn't a problem.

I don't use vacation Mode when i am away - I manage my resources so that I do not become a big naq target.

And you are still missing the point - the amount of people on PPT isn't the problem - nor is it the fact that they are on PPT - it is the fact that there are those that are constantly on (and abusing) PPT. I guess what i am saying is - why even bother with this game if you are just going to sit behind constant PPT and not actually get involved with MANAGING your account resources?

Not you personally by the way, god.

[Sleipnir]

The cost of spylevels doubles for a reason. It is to keep people from getting the next level too soon. If the cost keeps doubling, you should expect the effort and time needed to achieve it to double as well (not completely cause income also grows, but you get the point). If the next spylevel is out of reach with your current resources, maybe you should PLAY your way to some more, not expect it to be handed to you on a silver platter. Everytime I manage to get another spylevel, I see it as an achievement. Just sitting there waiting for it to come to you isn't much of an achievement in my books. That said, I think people should be forced to put effort into this game in order to become powerful. PPT completely counteracts that. It's not the people that use PPT because they're going away for 2 days that bother me. It's the people that ABUSE it to substitute for actually playing the game.

And on the TREATY comment, most treaty are formed between 2 parties. If you could just say: hey, you can't attack me anymore, and expect the world, no, the galaxy to conform to that, why the heck do we still have wars in the world?

And where did I say I think this game is more important than people's real life affairs? If those real life affairs are really more important than the game, what do you need PPT for? Forget about the game and get back to your life. If you feel you have to put your account on PPT to tend to your real life matters, doesn't that say you think the game is more important than real life?

[NoDot]

Just as a reminder, there are a number of Lone Wolf players in the game, like me. I'm my own commander (ego and UP bonus), I'm not part of an alliance, and I don't accept officers. Simply put, I play alone.

Wolf, you talk a lot about forging relationships to advance. That's not the only way. Somethings, I wonder if you remember about that.

On topic, if there's a tightening up of PPT, then I'd suggest those PPTers turtle up, like you have to do.

[JIX]

i voted yes forum is'nt making that much money from it now(just a guess)
so why not you dont need more than one a month hell i have only had two in my entrie time playing which is about 5-6months

[liam óg]

I think you should have as many in a month as you want but you shouldnt be able to get them from ingame resources (someones gotto to pay for this site) if you really need to be protected then just go on vacation or train all your UU into spieds (I ment spys but Im in Belfast )

So I say "You want PPT then give forum $$$!"

[Wolf359]

Just as a reminder, there are a number of Lone Wolf players in the game, like me. I'm my own commander (ego and UP bonus), I'm not part of an alliance, and I don't accept officers. Simply put, I play alone.

Wolf, you talk a lot about forging relationships to advance. That's not the only way. Somethings, I wonder if you remember about that.

On topic, if there's a tightening up of PPT, then I'd suggest those PPTers turtle up, like you have to do.

No Dot - I agree completely with what you say - and I never said my list was exhaustive - but I am not going to list everything that you need to do in order to be successful in the game - let's let them figure some of it out themselves

As for the later post regarding 'someone has to pay for the site' - well - there are over 20,000 people playing this game - if only 1% of them buy PPT once per month, that is $2000 - more than enough to pay for the tunning of the site.

And despite the fact that you can now purchase PPT using in-game resources - there are still many who buy the PPT.

And I'm still waiting for a decent, sensible, reason as to why the number of PPTs should not be reduced.

[Visaoni]

Sleipnir, Wolf359, I want my level 20 spy NOW!!! I see no reason why I should have to wait more than a whole week from signing up to get it when I have a strong alliance at my back. Now now now I say! Why in the world would I ever want to actually think? Answer me that! I have life to think about, I just wanna totally PWN this game, no thought required! Pssh, all you suckers that actually play the game...
/sarcasm

Hehe sorry, just had to get that out. That should sum up my thoughts on PPT. Especially abusing it.

I agree with Sleipnir's idea about getting something other than PPT (except perhaps if you donate to the site, then we can all bash on the few rich sobs that can afford to abuse PPT and they can buy some people to comfort them, so the friendlier of us don't need to worry about hurting feelings), in fact this has been the main reason I have not even gotten SS. If I do (really thinking about it) chances are that I will attack right after getting it, or if I don't, it will be my one bought PPT of the game.



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[Blackbird]

I agree that something need to be done about PPT as i see ppl that sit behind it for much longer than 48 hrs.

I dont think ppl using it is a problem (eg when you want to upgrade to a new spy level without all ur naq being stolen) its just when its used consistantly that becomes theres a problem.

I also think that the having donating $$$ for PPT is a good idea as it will make ppl think more carefully about using it.

It also seems rather stupid ppl saying that they need to use PPT because of there job or whatever ... if ur gonna be away for several days go into vacation mode otherwise i find that checking ur account once a day works fine. I have only used PPT twice once at the start of the game and once when i got SS

[RepliChris]

Yes, this is smart using all the resources of the game ( as PPT ), yes, it is not abusing the game to be constantly on PPT.

But here, in "Game suggestions", we want to CHANGE the game ; so it is better, cooler, rox my cox, etc ... So stop saying that what you're doing is better than anyone or whatever, you are off topic.

The fact is that the easy use of PPT has dramatically changed the game. We could say that it IS the game for some players ... So, in order to have a more enjoyable play, we propose to limit this use, so it is harder or more dangerous to get some things ( like spy levels ).

I think this is the fun of the game ! Spying, massing, attacking, builiding, repairing ... Not just PPTing, PPTing, PPTing ...

And yeah, 3 PPT a month is already a lot ! For 5 months of playing this game, I've bought 1 PPT ( well, someone bought it for SS and spy level 18 + 19).

Hope this makes sense !