Would like to know how the game calculates the minimum fleets a player needs to steal a given planet.
For example, is it a small rounded-off percentage of the planet's defence?
Also the minimum number of fleets needed to attack a planet without losing all fleets.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much.
~Vicarious
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i ****** up with cough syrup once
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it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....
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lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
guys
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omg..
not even loid
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1t out
1.5t def
omg
................
Tom just sent you a nudge.
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guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
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FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
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come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
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he did it :O
damn you :O
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FS ******* Special
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TL **Filtered** Lemmings
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FS Forgotten Socks
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FAIL
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
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vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O
Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
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FS ******* Special
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
15% of planet defence
Or fleets will not initiate in attack.
As a member of SISU, I would think your alliancemates would be a good place to go for valuable infromation or tips
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
They are busy and I am impatient 
Thanks very much.
15%+ To Steal a planet and ...% to just attack it?
~Vicarious
Thanks very much.
15%+ To Steal a planet and ...% to just attack it?
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i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....
Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year
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i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....
Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year
Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
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GrizzZzzly says:
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
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Tom says:
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
Spoiler
Tom says:
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................
Tom just sent you a nudge.
Andy says:
LoD $$$
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??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi
Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................
Tom just sent you a nudge.
Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi
Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
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i love you <3
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Rocky?
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andy
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andy?
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ahh
Rocky?
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andy
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andy?
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guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
Spoiler
FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
Spoiler
vintage says:
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!
Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O
Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!
Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O
Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
you need 100% of total defences to steal.. 
15% = minimum possible to send an attack... so that your fleets can mass the planet's defences.
15% = minimum possible to send an attack... so that your fleets can mass the planet's defences.

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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Hehe sorry, haven't played in a long time
Also just being stupid
Thanks for the help
~Vicarious
Also just being stupid
Thanks for the help
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Dark Hero says:
i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....
Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year
Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....
Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year
Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
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GrizzZzzly says:
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
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Tom says:
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
Spoiler
Tom says:
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................
Tom just sent you a nudge.
Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi
Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................
Tom just sent you a nudge.
Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi
Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
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zakb3 says:
i love you <3
i love you <3
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peter says:
Rocky?
Andy says:
andy
peter says:
andy?
Andy says:
Vicariously
peter says:
ahh
Rocky?
Andy says:
andy
peter says:
andy?
Andy says:
Vicariously
peter says:
ahh
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wnpll20@googlemail.com (E-mail address not verified) says:
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
Spoiler
FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass
FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
Spoiler
vintage says:
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!
Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O
Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!
Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O
Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
No probs ;P
Good luck taking the planet you're after haha.
Good luck taking the planet you're after haha.

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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
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How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
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How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
BMMJ13 wrote:amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
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How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.
First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542
I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...

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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
The Iron Duke wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:amag27 wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.
Also Moved.
How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.
First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542
I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...
Platforms are bugged that they show double losses in logs/ME. The platform(s) you destroyed were only 290k or so, about 900 bil. Well below the 10% for ~120 bil fleets, however not above 30% (hence showing devestating).
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Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing
Thanks for clearing that up for me 

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