Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

For newcomers to ask questions to the other users... this section will usually answer most questions... requesting resources (naq/UUs/ATs) is not to be done here...
Post Reply
Vicarious
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 191
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:11 pm
Alliance: The Legion
Race: SISU
ID: 1972520
Location: Ireland

Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

Would like to know how the game calculates the minimum fleets a player needs to steal a given planet.

For example, is it a small rounded-off percentage of the planet's defence?

Also the minimum number of fleets needed to attack a planet without losing all fleets.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks very much.

~Vicarious
Dark Hero Siggies:
Spoiler
Dark Hero says:
i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....

Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year

Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
GrizzZzzly siggies:
Spoiler
GrizzZzzly says:
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
Da Vinci siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
Lord of Destruction siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................

Tom just sent you a nudge.

Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi


Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
~NAME~ Siggies:
Spoiler
zakb3 says:
i love you <3
Jokerz Siggies:
Spoiler
peter says:
Rocky?
Andy says:
andy
peter says:
andy?
Andy says:
Vicariously
peter says:
ahh
Brothers siggies:
Spoiler
wnpll20@googlemail.com (E-mail address not verified) says:
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
FM siggies:
Spoiler
FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass

FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
Random Siggies:
Spoiler
vintage says:
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!

Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O


Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
User avatar
Z E R O
Forum Addict
Posts: 3908
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:04 am
Alliance: Jötunheim
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1918344
Alternate name(s): Hymir
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

15% of planet defence :P Or fleets will not initiate in attack.

As a member of SISU, I would think your alliancemates would be a good place to go for valuable infromation or tips :P
Image
Z E R O - Jötunheim - 1907332 - UnKnown of the TOLAH
Image
*Zero - 1991093
Spoiler
Image
Vicarious
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 191
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:11 pm
Alliance: The Legion
Race: SISU
ID: 1972520
Location: Ireland

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

They are busy and I am impatient :P

Thanks very much.

15%+ To Steal a planet and ...% to just attack it?

~Vicarious
Dark Hero Siggies:
Spoiler
Dark Hero says:
i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....

Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year

Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
GrizzZzzly siggies:
Spoiler
GrizzZzzly says:
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
Da Vinci siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
Lord of Destruction siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................

Tom just sent you a nudge.

Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi


Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
~NAME~ Siggies:
Spoiler
zakb3 says:
i love you <3
Jokerz Siggies:
Spoiler
peter says:
Rocky?
Andy says:
andy
peter says:
andy?
Andy says:
Vicariously
peter says:
ahh
Brothers siggies:
Spoiler
wnpll20@googlemail.com (E-mail address not verified) says:
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
FM siggies:
Spoiler
FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass

FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
Random Siggies:
Spoiler
vintage says:
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!

Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O


Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
User avatar
Z E R O
Forum Addict
Posts: 3908
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:04 am
Alliance: Jötunheim
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1918344
Alternate name(s): Hymir
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

you need 100% of total defences to steal.. :P

15% = minimum possible to send an attack... so that your fleets can mass the planet's defences.
Image
Z E R O - Jötunheim - 1907332 - UnKnown of the TOLAH
Image
*Zero - 1991093
Spoiler
Image
Vicarious
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 191
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:11 pm
Alliance: The Legion
Race: SISU
ID: 1972520
Location: Ireland

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

Hehe sorry, haven't played in a long time :P

Also just being stupid :)

Thanks for the help :)

~Vicarious
Dark Hero Siggies:
Spoiler
Dark Hero says:
i ****** up with cough syrup once
never doing that again
it had sorbitol in it which basically means... instant diarrhoea
plus we were drinking at the same time which meant instant passing out
now put them both together....

Dark Hero says:
there is only 362 days in the year

Vicariously Dark Hero 10,000,000 Naquadah 5,800,000,000,000 Naquadah Jan 08, 2012, 11:11 am Completed.
GrizzZzzly siggies:
Spoiler
GrizzZzzly says:
ya but i mainly watch it cos he's hawt
Da Vinci siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
well was in the shower
thought why not time to spair
i can multi task
then he started saying
"bend over pick up the soap"
Lord of Destruction siggies:
Spoiler
Tom says:
guys
first 1 to reply wins 1t
omg..
not even loid
ppt misser
1t out
1.5t def
omg
................

Tom just sent you a nudge.

Andy says:
LoD $$$
™Lord Of DestructiOn says:
??
Andy says:
lol
Tom says:
lmaoi


Tom says:
lol my friend from college has sex with his cousin while his m8 watched from a tree
~NAME~ Siggies:
Spoiler
zakb3 says:
i love you <3
Jokerz Siggies:
Spoiler
peter says:
Rocky?
Andy says:
andy
peter says:
andy?
Andy says:
Vicariously
peter says:
ahh
Brothers siggies:
Spoiler
wnpll20@googlemail.com (E-mail address not verified) says:
guild stats whats left whilst i wsa ndruun
druk
drunky
drnk
drunkl
****
drunk
FM siggies:
Spoiler
FM says:
I once went out...and started drinking the next day as well...
and I went crazy
I don't remember anything about the evening...
I woke up in my mates new house...new carpet...the works...
There was a little turd on the floor
Tom says:
rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
FM says:
and on my ass

FM says:
Maybe you think slower then you type?
So you do stuff phonetically
Like a tard
Tom says:
mby u should shut up
Random Siggies:
Spoiler
vintage says:
come on andy do it
do it!
do
it
!

Andy says:
Weapons Destroyed
Name Type Quantity Strength
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 2005293 5750/5750
Defense
vintage says:
he did it :O
damn you :O


Alexander Newman says
your a tard //
Andy Barrell says
FS ******* Special
Alexander Newman says
TL **Filtered** Lemmings
Andy Barrell says
FS Forgotten Socks
Alexander Newman says
TL Twerp Sauce
Andy Barrell says
FAIL
User avatar
Z E R O
Forum Addict
Posts: 3908
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:04 am
Alliance: Jötunheim
Race: NanoTiMaster
ID: 1918344
Alternate name(s): Hymir
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

No probs ;P

Good luck taking the planet you're after haha.
Image
Z E R O - Jötunheim - 1907332 - UnKnown of the TOLAH
Image
*Zero - 1991093
Spoiler
Image
stuff of legends
Forum Expert
Posts: 1217
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 1:50 am
Alliance: The Legion
Location: China Beijing

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

and 10% if it has platforms on it.
Image
Image
BMMJ13
Lord of Winterfell
Posts: 3601
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:46 pm
Alliance: Tauri Alliance
Race: Tollan
ID: 89633
Location: On the Mothership...

Honours and Awards

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.
Mar 18, 14:52 General Zeus Sabotage Repelled 104,724,369 details
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
ImageImage

ImageImage

ImageImage

Image

Image

Image

Image
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
Forum Addict
Posts: 3152
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:55 am
Alliance: TÅTS / TÅF
Race: Magnificent
ID: 83588
Alternate name(s): >> Skype: IrishHighlanders <<
Dublin Warrior, Dubby, Dubs, DW, CGG, DCGG2.
Paul, Paulie Boy!, Paulie, PAULIE!!!, PAULIE BOY!!!, Paul James, etc.
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.



lol... indeed... #-o
User avatar
BarelyAllen
Forum Expert
Posts: 1042
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:43 am
Alliance: Justice League
Race: Speedster
ID: 1996821
Alternate name(s): Amag
Location: Sitting on a crack in time

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.

How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?
-Silence will fall-

Image
Spoiler
Spoiler
Image
Spoiler
Image
Spoiler
Image
Spoiler
Image
Spoiler
Image
Spoiler
Image
Need a sig? Want one of the ones on display in the spoiler edited for your use? Just ask.

http://stargatewars.herebegames.com/vie ... 8&t=174250 feedback
BMMJ13
Lord of Winterfell
Posts: 3601
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:46 pm
Alliance: Tauri Alliance
Race: Tollan
ID: 89633
Location: On the Mothership...

Honours and Awards

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

amag27 wrote:
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.

How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?

You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?
Mar 18, 14:52 General Zeus Sabotage Repelled 104,724,369 details
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
ImageImage

ImageImage

ImageImage

Image

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
The Iron Duke
Forum Intermediate
Posts: 906
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:00 pm
Alliance: Nemesis Novus
ID: 1915260
Location: New Zealand

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

BMMJ13 wrote:
amag27 wrote:
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.

How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?

You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?

I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.

First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542

I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...
Image
Destroyer of Worlds, Defender of Noobs, Dan Dan the Dustbin Man!
Image
'
Spoiler
Image
Image
BMMJ13
Lord of Winterfell
Posts: 3601
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:46 pm
Alliance: Tauri Alliance
Race: Tollan
ID: 89633
Location: On the Mothership...

Honours and Awards

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

The Iron Duke wrote:
BMMJ13 wrote:
amag27 wrote:
BMMJ13 wrote:15% to engaged with natural. 10% to engage if platforms. If you have less than 15% of natural you can't engage, if you have less than 10% of platforms you can. If you end up engaging one with a platform but end up not having the 10% required, your fleets will blow up. Over and you will damage the planet defenses based on how many fleets you are sending. Of note, many things in game are random %, so you don't really want to send only 15% unless you have to.

Also Moved.

How did someone with 3b fleet power attack a 300b plat of mine a few months ago and not lose fleets?

You sure they didn't lose their fleets? Do you have logs?

I took a planet with a natural defense of 1111 (Def: 3,333,000,000) and after I took the planet I had destroyed 580,047 defenses. Most was platforms (obviously)
I only have 104k fleets which is 120bill in power, yet I managed to take a planet with 1.7Trill worth of defenses. In the logs I was getting devastating damage done against me, though my fleets werent dying, just high repair costs to being with.

First Hit:
Feb 13, 18:38 Attack defended 15 7,534 0 113,010,560,000 A Huge Amount
Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 34,542

I hit 31 times before I stopped receiving devastating damage and could see the defense when hitting. Took me 72hits in total to get the planet. So i'm not sure how this 10% / 15% rule works exactly...

Platforms are bugged that they show double losses in logs/ME. The platform(s) you destroyed were only 290k or so, about 900 bil. Well below the 10% for ~120 bil fleets, however not above 30% (hence showing devestating).
Mar 18, 14:52 General Zeus Sabotage Repelled 104,724,369 details
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Spoiler
Image
ImageImage

ImageImage

ImageImage

Image

Image

Image

Image
User avatar
The Iron Duke
Forum Intermediate
Posts: 906
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:00 pm
Alliance: Nemesis Novus
ID: 1915260
Location: New Zealand

Re: Minimum Fleets Needed - Planet Stealing

Thanks for clearing that up for me :)
Image
Destroyer of Worlds, Defender of Noobs, Dan Dan the Dustbin Man!
Image
'
Spoiler
Image
Image
Post Reply

Return to “Newbie/ FAQ Forum”