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ac question

this is a real noob question but i never bothered about anti cov until now.

anyway do you need to beat the oppenents defence inorder for your ac to kill his covert? or could you attack someone with a much smaller attack force but still wipe out all their covert if your anti covert was powerful or in great numbers.
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no hav a stronger anti than his covert. the stronger def themore that will die in crossfire when heading to do thier job. but u dont nessarily need to exceed his covert. beating the def might ad xx% to covert strength if his def is overpowered
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Anti Covert Agents If you have anti covert agents, they come into battle with you, in the attempt to kill your enemies covert agents/spies. They suffer damage based on the enemy military defence, and then must overpower the enemy covert action in order to kill spies. The amount killed is based on the difference between your anti-covert action, and their covert action, and how much time (turns) they have to spend. Also worth noting is if the enemy has no defence to speak of, your army (being bored) will assist your anti-covert activities, increasing their potential by up to 300% (making them 3x as powerful).


i dont think def matters too much but i could b wrong as i make a habbit of not attacking people with higher def then my strike
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Your atk MUST beat their def for AC to kill spies(assuming your AC overpowers their cov)
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Mass their Def

Untrain spies, make then AC (only have AC trained when attacking a target with zero def)

AC mass them

Retrain spies

Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies (Use pookies calculator to determine how many you need to send) until they lack a strike.
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spammer of the Tok`Ra wrote:Mass their Def

Untrain spies, make then AC (only have AC trained when attacking a target with zero def)

AC mass them

Retrain spies

Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies (Use pookies calculator to determine how many you need to send) until they lack a strike.


Eh, untraining spies is stupid... use miners instead. Otherwise you're just going to lose a huge load of weapons when the person logs on to bank and starts sabbing you. Otherwise, yes kill the defense first or you'll lose massive anti-covert units.
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spammer of the Tok`Ra wrote:Mass their Def

Untrain spies, make then AC (only have AC trained when attacking a target with zero def)

AC mass them

Retrain spies

Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies (Use pookies calculator to determine how many you need to send) until they lack a strike.


Eh, untraining spies is stupid... use miners instead. Otherwise you're just going to lose a huge load of weapons when the person logs on to bank and starts sabbing you. Otherwise, yes kill the defense first or you'll lose massive anti-covert units.


Note the part in bold.
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Tok`ra WHERES THE RUM! wrote:
Reeb wrote:
spammer of the Tok`Ra wrote:Mass their Def

Untrain spies, make then AC (only have AC trained when attacking a target with zero def)

AC mass them

Retrain spies

Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies (Use pookies calculator to determine how many you need to send) until they lack a strike.


Eh, untraining spies is stupid... use miners instead. Otherwise you're just going to lose a huge load of weapons when the person logs on to bank and starts sabbing you. Otherwise, yes kill the defense first or you'll lose massive anti-covert units.


Note the part in bold.


I agree with Tokra here, using miners results in huge lifer counts. using spies is the most economical choice.
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Raistlin Majere wrote:
Tok`ra WHERES THE RUM! wrote:
Reeb wrote:
spammer of the Tok`Ra wrote:Mass their Def

Untrain spies, make then AC (only have AC trained when attacking a target with zero def)

AC mass them

Retrain spies

Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies (Use pookies calculator to determine how many you need to send) until they lack a strike.


Eh, untraining spies is stupid... use miners instead. Otherwise you're just going to lose a huge load of weapons when the person logs on to bank and starts sabbing you. Otherwise, yes kill the defense first or you'll lose massive anti-covert units.


Note the part in bold.


I agree with Tokra here, using miners results in huge lifer counts. using spies is the most economical choice.


having a lotta lifers can be a very good thing :-D
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TheGreatOne wrote:
Raistlin Majere wrote:I agree with Tokra here, using miners results in huge lifer counts. using spies is the most economical choice.


having a lotta lifers can be a very good thing :-D


the key word being in bold.

That doesn't mean it is good all the time.
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Its cheaper to retrain miners, and yes you get lifers outta it.

That said, having a large number of UU in the mines (inaddition to a large UP) is QUITE useful, if you suddenly need untrained for something.

If you're in a war, odds are you will be loosing spies anyway, if you loose def.

So better to make them AC in that case, loose spies thru untrain rather than someone elses AC.

Then AC them and their freidns before they can sab yoru strike.

Your def prevents (efficent) AC
which preserves spies
which prevents (effective, execpt from the hi pwr people) sabs
which protects your strike
Which lets you mass
which lets you AC
which lets you sab strike
which protects your def
And so on. . .

Edited out unneeded materials.

And so on. . .

Your def prevents (efficent) AC
which preserves spies
which prevents (effective, execpt from the hi pwr people) sabs
which protects your strike
Which lets you mass
which lets you AC
which lets you sab strike
which protects your def
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was the copy and paste nessary tokra?????
just copy and paste 1-2 times and say continue process till desired effect kicks in?????
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Tok`ra WHERES THE RUM! wrote:Mass their Def
AC mass them
Have fun sabbing them with a low number of spies

Just beating the def is one thing...massing on a whim is another.
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Sorry for my noob question..
But.. as i understood..
We need AC units only to kill enemy spy ( antispy??) units durning an attack??
Because i don't see any adventage in buying ANTI COVERT..
It will be nice if s1 can explain it to me..
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if u wanna mass someone- u kill spies at a certain point. u get anti covert levels and assasins. where u kill any spies depends on the target covert capacity - ac levels come into play (along with assasins). the defense of target will tell how many asasins die while breaking off main force to hunt. if defense is weak enuff. ure atkers will get bored and add up to 300% to ure ac capacity.

so if u dont intend to mass ppl leave AC ALONE
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