Jamie Sheehan's views on the CoP -v- CIA war

[Prior Or Ori]

thank you for fulfilling Godwin's Law, twice in one page even....

somehow the other war threads i think have avoided it thus far...

for those that don't know...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law

anyways, to be more on topic, yes it's nice there's a debate although it's a lot of the same stuff said in different ways.... but keep it up...

[J.S.]

If COP Wins: itll just prove the point that the rest of the game does understand us.


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@Ryan : THE PAST ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF. If Your Human you are doomed to repeat teh actions of the past. Dont Believe me look at real life. youd think we learned from the Nazi. we didnt it only got worse.

Bah Paul Ruining a great ep of heroes for me.. Bah to you!!

At this point once again I said that as an extreme. Granted I didn't mention it in my firs tpost I shall have to extract everything and rewrite my first post, but I really really hate that edit button..

Now as for the repeating past actions.. Those that do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.. Thats why it shoud be in everyones best interests to better themselves and try to better themselves around them..

Lets take point and case here with SGW, GA failed because it was too big and too powerful. CoP may not be too big but it is too powerful, and the current situation is the best chance of trying to take them down..

If CoP win, for me there would be no point in continueing with CoP becuase everyone knows that CoP would not be able to be beaten!!

We could sit here and face total domination of CoP for the rest of SGW time, but I would rather go out drinking with my friends and enjoying myself then stressing over one of my allaince members being farmed by somone in CoP or hit by someone in CoP and I can't do jack manure about it.. So if it comes down to it, enjoy SGW or stress over it I will drop it in a heartbeat and say GL to it..

I like pretty much everyone else plays SGW for fun, to relax and enjoy myself.. Which is the admins original intention I assume..

I do not care about individual allainces being on top but when a group of alliances work together to bring down all the other top alliances in order to have them on top, how is that fair on the players that are not in these alliances? Yes its a game and like life it might not be fair but at the end of the day it is just a game. Games are meant to exist so people can enjoy themselves... And I can tell you that the reason CIA members are here fighting is becuase they are not (or were not) enjoying themselves with CoP around..

Again I would rather an end to all superpowers and have just individual allainces with their one or two good allies then have what we have..

@Prior - Yeah it is sad to see it be compared like that.. And yet again by CoP members..

Guys seriously, this isn't comparing anyone to any other group.. What goes on in this game on main and heck even ascended is my only concern.. Why becuase outside this game nothing that goes on inside it matters to the rest of the world..

Either keep it to the game or don't post please

[Zeta - Twitch]

Okay see in your own post you proved my point. CIA isnt enjoyng themselves. Well that sux for them

COP on the Other hand is having way too much fun to be humanly health.. but they are still having fun

[|ninja|]

In reply to the original post. I think my situation exemplifies what your saying J.S.. I'm fairly new to SGW, but I'm not new to text-based games... and not new putting far too much time into them . At some point I found myself where SGW as the only game I played... so I started taking it seriously (a few massings and a war had a little to do with that )... and therein worked on my army size.

I play these games for alliances (there politics and organisation) and alliance politics. Raiding 0.5-1.5 mil (minus 30-60% to buy ATs/MTs or wte) evert day is great and all (in a way \o/), but I lost heart... I didn't really have a purpose for playing the game, as there seemed that there would never be a group to compete with CoP on there terms, and anything I did was irrelevant regardless of how much more active I was. Anyway I put myself on vac mode a few weeks ago...

Now I find myself back and way more involved in the community than before, because this war (and character shown by all the CIA alliances) has given me a new reason to play and be active. Tbh I don't see a winner as such in this war... its just who can outlast the other. If the CIA collapses internally and fractures, then I don't see much my point in me continuing to play. However, if the CIA holds their own (and its looking good atm) and defies CoP, I would definitely keep playing and be more active than ever.

[EDIT] Cba replying to the rest of posts, maybe later

[You there! Old Woman!]

Okay see in your own post you proved my point. CIA isnt enjoyng themselves. Well that sux for them

COP on the Other hand is having way too much fun to be humanly health.. but they are still having fun

I think you mis-read what he said. He stated that the members who are now in CiA were not enjoying the game under the shadow of CoP hence the formation of CiA.....at least that the understanding I got from what he said, as far as enjoying the war goes, I and the rest of the EPAC are loving it

[DD-Tok`ra]

Okay see in your own post you proved my point. CIA isnt enjoyng themselves. Well that sux for them

COP on the Other hand is having way too much fun to be humanly health.. but they are still having fun

I think you mis-read what he said. He stated that the members who are now in CiA were not enjoying the game under the shadow of CoP hence the formation of CiA.....at least that the understanding I got from what he said, as far as enjoying the war goes, I and the rest of the EPAC are loving it

Then why did EPAc cave in so fast last war, then turn their backs on their allies ?

[REK]

LoL lovely post JS

ohh by the way I massed one of you Hive members by accident

Have him send me the bill and I fix him up better than new

unless this is a reason for you to come into war....

if it is then ...I HIT FIRST ..LoL

get over yourselves people.... its fun and yes

CoP ENVITES ALL ALLIANCES to ATTACK US...

if you hate us so much here is your chance people...

[Angelos.]

Hey Rek...i would love to mass one of your officers, Lord Laknor..he keeps pestering me for resources...plus he had no idea who CoP were...


But i don't want to do it without permission from you first

Let's just say...he had no idea about you guys...he is one of the biggest noobs i've met on this game in my experience, not sure about yours though.

oops..sorry about the spam guys..

could you answer my question please Rek.

[DD-Tok`ra]

Hey Rek...i would love to mass one of your officers, Lord Laknor..he keeps pestering me for resources...plus he had no idea who CoP were...


But i don't want to do it without permission from you first

Let's just say...he had no idea about you guys...he is one of the biggest noobs i've met on this game in my experience, not sure about yours though.

oops..sorry about the spam guys..

could you answer my question please Rek.

Called PM

[RepliJake]

I'd like to apollogise for how harsh I was, it was a very very long weekend, really good though. The reason for my lack of responses so far is because I wasn't here to reply, thankfully. As for everyone else, I was only responding to Jamie's original post.

Now, although I was harsh, allot still stands, bringing up the whole reasons for the Omega/EPAC war was a mistake, that is just asking for trouble right there, it's been done to death, you saying your reasons are correct and everything else is lies is just plain wrong, the same as if we were to say that.


"Really hoping that the losers quit" that doesn't sound like only and extreme outcome, sounds like that's what you want since you went into reasons for it. Fact is, win lose or draw for us at least, we get what we wanted, we, well at least me and most of my friends in CoP and outside, we play for the wars and the friends we've made, yes I did say that, I didn't say we play to bully, sit or otherwise ruin it for others. I relish a massing of me, it's good fun watching it fall and getting it back only to lose it again, it's a game and I know it.


I would love it if another super power in the game appeared, who needs the peace times... lol

Thankfully I can read


You're not older

Anyway, that's about all I have to say for now, again, sorry I was so rude in trying to say something.

[You there! Old Woman!]

Okay see in your own post you proved my point. CIA isnt enjoyng themselves. Well that sux for them

COP on the Other hand is having way too much fun to be humanly health.. but they are still having fun

I think you mis-read what he said. He stated that the members who are now in CiA were not enjoying the game under the shadow of CoP hence the formation of CiA.....at least that the understanding I got from what he said, as far as enjoying the war goes, I and the rest of the EPAC are loving it

Then why did EPAc cave in so fast last war, then turn their backs on their allies ?

What?

EPAC never actually went to war with all of CoP last time it was EPA/TSA v Omega 359 v DDE and The hive/WoB v Alpha and we fought on for a few weeks, we are smart enough to know when we are beat and we are no where near beat this time.

In regards to turning our backs on our allies I fail to see which allies you refer to particularly since the only allies EPAC have had since the disbandment of the GA have been each other.

Peace out Wes!

[HellFire]

Up until probably Feb of last year, I was a stat builder After the first real big mass, where you lose 'everything', is when it makes, or breaks a player. I lost 3million units, out of a 4million army. I was 'very' tempted to quit, as it was pointless

But after that, I became a war mongerer. The reason why everyone sees CoP as a bully, and why we don't view ourselves as it, is because we enjoy war. You hit us, we mass you, we'd be so happy, if you massed us back. Our play styles show it, the way we talk, shows it.

At the end of this war, no matter who the victor, no matter who the defeated, 'both' sides should walk away smiling, as, personally, this is the most fun I've had in ages.

You may say the only way to get decent, is being 'in' CoP.

Well, I hit rank about 17, without being in the CoP, at all. Infact, I just joind a CoP alliance this last December

If the CIA lose, it should not be a reason to leave the game - it should be a reason to take a new view to the game.

Sorry for the somewhat long post, and history lesson ^^' Wrote this after only a few hours of sleep, and alot of caffeinated substances.

~HellFire

[J.S.]

Guys getting off topic

@Tok'ra, Dundee answered your question, regarding our allies EPAc have never turned their back on their allies.
@Rek, yeah, I saw my officers attack logs.. Already told him to bill you
@Angelos, I'm sure if Rek's officers were farming ya he deserved to be massed..
@Replijake, The conversation has evolved slighty, past its original parameters.. The reason the EPAc bit was brought up was becuase the EPAc is a direct creation of the old GA.. And don't worry about being Rude, I deal with those people everyday brother.. You might relish in a massing of you but how many times will you bring in Omega to help mass the person who massed you?

Where the conversation now is going is should we as a community allow huge super powers?

So many people are fighting in this war in order to try and bring down the existing superpower CoP... Not to replace it with an even larger worse one. CIA is a creation soley because of the existence of CoP.. Nothing more.

Prehaps I am approaching this wrong, maybe I should ask is it right to get all of your freinds beat up the guy who beat you up or should you do it yourself?

Anything esle that has to be asked/answered that isn't on topic to the question should do so in PM's..

[DD-Tok`ra]

Guys getting off topic

@Tok'ra, Dundee answered your question, regarding our allies EPAc have never turned their back on their allies.

Yet after the war, I was farmed by EPA members


I farmed back, being a good sport, and got massed twice.


Now Ive reaped for more payback than the ammount of dammage that was done to me.

[[TA] Ryan Uy]

If COP Loses: We WIll just mass everyone because we are pissed off. We Wont Delete. We will just be the constant headache for ne1 who trys to go big

If COP Wins: itll just prove the point that the rest of the game does understand us.

@Ryan : THE PAST ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF. If Your Human you are doomed to repeat teh actions of the past. Dont Believe me look at real life. youd think we learned from the Nazi. we didnt it only got worse.

well whatever the case maybe after this war hope that things will be much better and different than before not just for the victors but for everyone, on a side note i admire COPS for their resiliency and the battlehardness but however i think this war should have made you realize that you guys might have a little problem...(note this is my personal opinion so dont take this the wrong way okay)

yes true true us humans have a slow learning curve and we tend to forget about the past, but im sorry but i am an optimistic person, still hoping that wouldnt occur...

im sorry that you lost friends in this war...well i can be your friend